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by Mark5019 / April 27, 2005 9:01 PM PDT

Florida Governor Jeb Bush has now signed the bill .. and the left is mightily upset. The bill? You know, that bill that actually recognizes the basic human right of self defense. Simply put, the new Florida law says that if find yourself under attack in a public place you don't have to look for a way to run away before you respond with deadly force. Here's your actual wording: In Florida a person now has "the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so, to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another."

What, pray tell, is the problem with that? You're attacked. You have a reasonable belief that you are in danger of great harm or death, or someone else is in danger, and you get to protect yourself with deadly force. Imagine that! A basic human right is the right of self defense. The very first governments formed by humankind were governments formed for one purpose ... to act to defend the people.

But what about the opponents? Well, it's the same old cast of characters. The mainstream media and liberals ... Democratic leftists. Democrats have a long history of opposing virtually any law that would allow a person to exercise their right to self defense. Most of you don't remember this, but about 30 years ago Ted "The Slug" Kennedy came up with a law introducing a new Federal Criminal Code. His idea was to compel the 50 states to adopt the federal code as their own. In that bill there was a retreat requirement. If you woke up in the middle of the night and heard someone rummaging around your home, you would be required to leave your home to the intruder if there was any way you could escape. You were simply not allowed to protect your home and its contents if you had the option to turn tail and run. Thankfully, Kennedy's bill failed.

this is reasonable it explains to all the people whats the is..


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reasonable belief ?
by JP Bill / April 27, 2005 9:22 PM PDT

Which party gets to decide what is reasonable?

It is not "cut and dry"

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thats what the law will decide
by Mark5019 / April 27, 2005 10:36 PM PDT
In reply to: reasonable belief ?

now if someone gets attacked you can use force to protect self.

and it says reasonable, if you verbally attacked you cant use deadly force, use a bat ill shoot you.
your a big person, i can use deadly force here in ga.

soon i hope more states get same laws.

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Within the first two years it will be
by Dan McC / April 27, 2005 11:31 PM PDT

used to justify road rage shootings.


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Yeah right ...
by Evie / April 27, 2005 11:55 PM PDT

... like all that has been stopping all of the law-abiding gun owners from shooting up the roadways is the lack of the right to self defense.

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And in every State that legalizes conceal carry,
by duckman / April 28, 2005 12:13 AM PDT

Has turned into the old west with daily shootouts

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if your on the recieving end yes
by Mark5019 / April 28, 2005 12:13 AM PDT

and i would think thats a reasonable reason dont you think so?

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Not if you're on the receiving end of
by Dan McC / April 28, 2005 1:13 AM PDT

a swerve or a cut-off or a finger.


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No ...
by Evie / April 28, 2005 1:17 AM PDT

... and you know it.

Or do you consider yourself mentally unstable enough to presume a finger is a threat to your life which is all this law entitles a person to defend themselves against.

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(NT) evie do you really need an answer:)
by Mark5019 / April 28, 2005 4:38 AM PDT
In reply to: No ...
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Demonstration of membership in "Drift Theory" group?
by Edward ODaniel / April 28, 2005 2:06 AM PDT
Second, we have the Denial Of Injury. In this case, offenders argue no one was physically hurt by their actions; it?s not a big deal. Liberal apologists are adamant that pie throwing is an age-old form of civil disobedience and should not be considered in the same context as an actual assault. Even though throwing pies at someone legally constitutes an assault and battery, to liberals, as long as no one needed medical treatment there was no harm done. It?s just social protest.

Your comment was a fine example of Denial of Injury which is one of the the five "techniques of neutralization" common to the Drift Theory.

Way to go, couldn't have asked for a better representation.

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thats not road rage
by Mark5019 / April 28, 2005 4:38 AM PDT

its when your run off the road and attacked.
thats why my 44 is on the seat at all times.

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Similar wrong statements were...
by Edward ODaniel / April 28, 2005 1:58 AM PDT

made when Florida enacted Right To Carry laws.

Since the same negative crowd is making the same negative comments one wonders why they never learn? AADD perhaps?

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