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Re: Ted Kennedy on no-fly list?

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This "no-fly" list is ridiculous!

So these people should be allowed to fly?

Usama Bin Laden
Ayman Al-Zawahiri
Abdelkarim Hussein Mohamed Al-Nasser
Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah
Muhsin Musa Matwalli Atwah
Ali Atwa
Anas Al-Liby
Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani
Hasan Izz-Al-Din
Ahmed Mohammed Hamed Ali
Fazul Abdullah Mohammed
Imad Fayez Mugniyah
Mustafa Mohamed Fadhil
Sheikh Ahmed Salim Swedan
Abdul Rahman Yasin
Fahid Mohammed Ally Msalam
Ahmad Ibrahim Al-Mughassil
Muhammad Atef
Ali Saed Bin Ali El-Hoorie
Saif Al-Adel
Ibrahim Salih Mohammed Al-Yacoub

or their aliases? Kennedy had a problem because of a similar alias to his name and that was corrected. That doesn't make the list ridiculous though. It's makes your suggestion that these people shouldn't be black listed ridiculous. Why don't you leave security up to the people responsible for security?

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Yup, I thought so.

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I just re-read DaveK's post to see how he justified the outrageous statements you're replying to. I discovered he didn't say anything like what you seem to think he said.

You might try reading it once more, too.

Dan

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Re: Yup, I thought so.

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Your eyes are going bad. He clearly said that the no-fly list used by the airlines is ridiculous. This is the same list they use to keep the most wanted terrorists off of the airlines. He clearly implied that black listing them is ridiculous...

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If a and b then

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chartreuse.

Good deducing skills there, Clay.

Dan

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Re: If a and b then

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Good deducing skills there, Clay.

Thanks. One could also deduce that your defense of Dave's position might imply that you think the no-fly list is ridiculous too...

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Re: If a and b then

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The list is ridiculous as are the conclusions you pulled out of thin air imagining that they were based on Dave's statement..

Dan

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Re: Yup, I thought so.

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Hi, Clay.

the list is ridiculous because (as shown here, and in many other cases) once you get on it, usually because someone with a name slightly similar to yours is a "person of interest," you're harassed forever -- there's no recourse, and Ridge, Ashcroft and co. don't care. here's my proposal -- anyone who shows up for a flight and is on the list is told that, and has the option of requesting a thorough background checked. Once that check is passed, the now-former list member is given an "I'm not the guy on the list" card (of the sort now being given frequent fliers to let them jump the lines). My statement was incomplete -- it's not the list itself that's ridiculous, but the lack of concern by the Homeland Security types about the rights of those on it through no fault of their own.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!

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Re: Yup, I thought so.

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My statement was incomplete -- it's not the list itself that's ridiculous, but the lack of concern by the Homeland Security types about the rights of those on it through no fault of their own.

That I agree with. Citizens like Kennedy should not be repeatedly harrassed for being on the list.

My statement was incomplete -- it's not the list itself that's ridiculous,

Of course, now Dan disagrees, he says the list itself is ridiculous.

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Strange that you think...

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the list is ridiculous because it is doing EXACTLY the same thing that the Instant Check database does that prevents fully legitimate prospective firearms buyers from purchasing firearms until the mistake is straightened out.

Then YOU and others rave about the number of "illegal purchases stopped" without ever bothering to acknowledge that most are later allowed to make the purchase because their rejection was in error.

Can't have it both ways Dave.

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Re: Strange that you think...

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Do you think the list is a bad idea, too?

Dan

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(NT) (NT) No, I like lists. Some of y'all are on one of mine...

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Re: Ted Kennedy on no-fly list?

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What I found interesting is

Kennedy said he was stopped at airports in Washington, D.C., and Boston three times in March. Airline agents told him he would not be sold a ticket because his name was on a list.

When he asked the agent why, he was told, "We can't tell you." [/b}

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I bet I can guess what list he was on

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The Karl Rove "let's bust balls" list.

Just a guess, of course.

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Re: I bet I can guess what list he was on

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Hi, Josh.

In the Watergate era, it was called "the enemies list."

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
click here to email semods4@yahoo.com

The opinions expressed above are my own,
and do not necessarily reflect those of CNET!

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(NT) (NT) Mary Jo was probably TERRIFIED...

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(NT) (NT) {Yawn}......

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(NT) (NT) At least you can. She can't thanks to Teddy...

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Still has nothing to do with the topic....

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....unless you think the "no-fly" list should be expanded to include........what?

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