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Talk about alternative energy source: pig manure?

Apr 12, 2004 11:28PM PDT

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Re:Talk about alternative energy source: pig manure?
Apr 12, 2004 11:44PM PDT

I know that pigs have simple stomachs (like us) rather than the compound stomachs of cows. The smell would be worse and disposal more difficult (can't sell it in bags like they do with cows). I wonder if they will try with human waste as well. Wouldn't that be cool if all the waste treatment plants become oil refineries?

It did say "A similar process is being used at a plant in Carthage, Mo., where tons of turkey entrails, feathers, fat and grease from a nearby Butterball turkey plant are converted into a light crude oil".

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Re:Re:Talk about alternative energy source: pig manure?
Apr 13, 2004 12:43AM PDT

I was wondering the other day about that light crude from turkey waste/byproducts facility. It was in a science and tecnology type magazine last year, and on web. Since then, I've heard nothing on news or in magazines. I need to figure out which of the tech mags it was in and see if I missed a followup.

Here is one link from November of 2003.

Set to open in April, the plant began production just six weeks ago. "We've had the normal start-up challenges," says Appel, "ordering wrong parts, getting necessary training done," not to mention recombining all the disparate feathers and innards that are separated during production at ConAgra's nearby Butterball factory, then trucked to CWT's hydro-pulper. Each day, only a few tons of offal are processed into roughly 50 barrels of oil, but Appel expects to ramp up production in the next two months.

If it actually works, even if the oil is a bit above import oil price, I'd really like to see it pushed. If no other government support, I'd go along at least with complete tax exemption (income, inventory, even a federal grant to pay local property tax) for a few years to get it going. Just think of the landfill savings as well as our independance.

RogerNC

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Do you know where most of our fowl manure goes?
Apr 13, 2004 10:37AM PDT

To Japan where it is processed and resold back to us as fertilizer.

This is what was happening several years ago when I was in the middle of this (not literally - get your minds out of the gutter) and I assume that nothing's changed.

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Shucks, growing up my grandmother kept chickens
Apr 13, 2004 3:15PM PDT

and people would come get the manure out of the roosting house to mix into garden plots sometimes.

Many prefer old dried horse manure for composting with other stuff for gardening food and/or decorative plants.

RogerNC

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(NT)Waste and trash into oil, the ultimate alternate recycleable source for energy
Apr 13, 2004 12:45AM PDT