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Taking shots or recording traditional art

Aug 3, 2014 2:54AM PDT

Hello everyone,
I need a huge favor from any artist, or any experienced digital camera holder, or whatever. I don't know. Just look up my problem and help me if you can.

I don't own a digital camera so far, so I'm writing this to clear my uncertainty.
First of all, I'm an artist, hobbyist, not a student whatsoever, I draw Anime characters.
So far I've been using my smartphone camera to take pictures of my sketches. I own a Neken N6 phone with a 13.0MP (F2.2,auto-focus,flashlight) camera.

Here's an example of the camera quality:
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/209/d/3/abby___eren_yeager_sketch_by_abbyfa-d7slifl.jpg
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The thing is, if I had to buy a digital camera, it has to better than my smartphones, and since I'm not experienced with cameras at all I can't tell whichever Digital Camera has a better quality than my phone's.

My little problem here is that I wanna do some digital edits to this, but I need the paper to look actual white in the camera shot, I mean the paper is obviously white but it looks kinda gray in the phone camera, I'm not really sure why that happens.

I asked an artist of what kind of camera he uses and he said he uses a Compact Canon Ixus 220 HS, therefore, I started this thread to know if it's worth buying, if it would fix my problem, or make any difference.

I usually take my pictures during daylight, I try to avoid drawing at night because my room light is blue-ish and it's kinda annoying, the shot comes out blue-ish as well.

So could it be because I take shots without any light directed to it? I tried to use the phone's flashlight but it's no good.

What I look up to achieve is a sketch of this quality:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10507087_284943575041638_7344884554017098705_o.jpg
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It does appear to have a bit of digital editing, as for the white background it can be done easily, but I can't imagine going through all the details in the face to remove the gray color and whiten it one way or another, right?

Okay so how about watching an actual recording for this drawing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE6t6nqoaRQ

I'm really sorry if this appear to be a very stupid matter but.. uh, yeah, it could be the lack of light, and I didn't test that out myself yet since I don't own a desk lamp/led and like I said, my room's light is blue-ish :/

So the other matter, how can I find out which Digital Camera to consider if I have a 13.0MP smartphone camera? I know there has to be tons of better Digital Cameras but I don't need that super fancy one, if the Canon Ixus 220 HS is better then that'll suffice, although I still need your thoughts.

Thanks for taking your time to read my silly thread, and I'm looking forward for an answer soon.

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The last Youtube looks like a time lapse.
Aug 3, 2014 2:58AM PDT

It takes some setup but I've seen time lapse with cameras (that had such), cell phones (with an app) and the most fun one I did was cobbled/built/made from a lot of stills.

I can't see where the camera model matters here. All since about 2000 would get you the quality I saw in your last youtube video. It's more about lighting IMO.
Bob

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Thanks
Aug 3, 2014 3:32AM PDT

Sounds pretty reasonable, I should get myself better lightnings soon.
I still have the second question. My wonder is, you don't determine how good the camera is based on how much MP it has, right? If that was the case, then my smartphone's camera would be as good as a Canon PowerShot N100.
So how do I determine that, any idea? Sorry for asking =c

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mine is 8MP
Aug 3, 2014 3:54AM PDT

It's a bit aged, but I've always used it at 5MP since that seemed sufficient for the quality I wanted while also allowing more images per GB. True higher definition would be determined by a larger CCD with a higher pixel count. Some cameras that advertise 12MP I think use a CCD with fewer pixels and then adjust to 12MP so they can claim that, but they don't really have a CCD with 12MP on it. Here's an example of such a lying camera.

Still, you can't go just by size of the CCD, some are just better than others, even if smaller, but with same pixel count. Lens size and focus, the CCD quality, the program that assembles the pixel info and writes to file, all that has to happen. Best is to take pictures with several cameras and then display on a high resolution monitor. If I was camera shopping today I'd take in my own SD card and snap some photos with several of the demo cameras at the store with annotation of which image was for which camera, then examine them later at home.

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OK, let's say we want to put that on say a Full HD TV?
Aug 3, 2014 4:06AM PDT

That's only 1920x1080 (1080p) so that's 2MP.

Even the new 4K HDTV is just under 9MP so for a time lapse 4K HDTV video, well, you can do the math.
Bob

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probably need to pixelate to determine the best image
Aug 3, 2014 4:18AM PDT

Crop an area and resize to fit the entire screen. That's when you'll find out who's been cheating on quality. Fair comparison would need all cameras being compared to save to tiff file.

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Nod.
Aug 3, 2014 4:26AM PDT

The thing here is that it's a common misconception about camera pixel counts. Lighting gets me the best bang when I think of effort and dollars. Next up is composition, subject matter and post production.
Bob

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Pixels and Sensors
Aug 3, 2014 8:09AM PDT

The budget digital cameras use small sensor assemblies and when they increase the megapixels they have to reduce the size of individual pixels. Tiny pixels put out less light.
That means they will have more noise and reduces the ability to take good pictures in low light.
Indoors you must use flash to get enough light.
Look here:
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/digital_cameras

Look under High End, advanced digital cameras.
The S and G series of cameras have fewer megapixels and a larger sensor and a brighter lens
plus manual controls. The manual controls will let you adjust the "white balance" and get white to look white.
Any of the advanced digital cameras will let you adjust white balance.
About 10 to 12 megapixels is about optimal for small cameras.
Phone cameras have sensors smaller than budget digital cameras which means 13 megapixels is far too many megapixels for good noise free pictures in low light. I don't think phone cameras let you adjust white balance.

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photo software
Aug 3, 2014 3:13AM PDT

will allow you to brighten the gamma and concentrate the contrast and maybe achieve what you want. A camera is only as good as it's lens too. 50mm lense are the standard for most realistic looking shots as the human eye sees things.

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Thanks
Aug 3, 2014 3:34AM PDT

That could actually help. I should've thought of that as well. But hey, I can't imagine playing with the camera contrast and such doing any better than actual lighting, right?
I'll give that a shot though, thanks!