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Take a break from saving the world, guys.

Jun 3, 2019 11:44PM PDT

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Interesting
Jun 5, 2019 12:00PM PDT

I had no idea such company policies existed. I worked at a place where they had a "dress code" but it was pretty flexible. They just wanted one to look professional - and had a "casual Friday" thing where it was expected everyone dress 'down' a bit from their usual attire. The only thing the boss really objected to was dressing better than he did (!). A quite nice guy in most respects, he could perhaps be regarded as vain.

My sister was once reprimanded by a judge for her "too short" skirt in court. (She's an attorney). Said judge, a woman, also objected to Victoria's lipstick colour ("too red" - whatever that is!), additionally, remarking that "In future, young woman, in MY court you will dress demurely and refrain from painting your lips". Vee could only reply "Yes, your honor" as most judges will brook no dissent on their orders. I guess some people just like to throw their "weight" around...

Rick

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Perhaps that judge had experience with
Jun 5, 2019 1:28PM PDT

a lot of cases of prostitution. I suppose a prostitute has a way of advertising without carrying a sign around. The advertising is in their dress code and it's quite possible that your sister reminded him of some of the persons brought before him. Perhaps short skirts and deep red lipstick are commonly used to advertise that one's body is for rent.

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could be
Jun 5, 2019 2:11PM PDT

But the judge was a woman. My sister fortunately never had to appear in her court again, anyway.

If your surmise is correct, I'm afraid that attitude is indicative of the reasoning behind some law enforcement making the assumption that since a woman was dressed "provocatively" she was "asking for it" if subsequently raped.

Rick

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I agree that "provocative" dress
Jun 5, 2019 5:13PM PDT

is never an excuse for sexual assault. At the same time, leaving one's windows down and iPad on the seat does not make it's owner responsible for its theft. I suspect, however, that example #2 won't get one much sympathy. Humans are funny about such things. We'd defend a friend or family member for a transgression that we'd send anyone else "up the river" for committing.
The mention that the judge was female does add an interesting twist, however. Sometimes the advice of a person more likely to be considered a peer gets more attention. I'm sure that a male judge making such a comment today would create a media feeding frenzy.

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You're right. However ...
Jun 5, 2019 3:58PM PDT

There's a spectrum of dressing, and it can be learned by men and women.
First, there should be no excuse for rape.
Second, a woman can be aware of tempting clothing that's appropriate, like acting in almost any film. Otherwise, she can be educated to help her own cause.
Third, see the First.
Fourth, makeup is a separate, tough topic. The Hispanic culture e.g., and I've seen the CA and NM versions, favors gaudiness. That's a turnoff for me but a signal for many men.
Fifth, see the First.

I learned a term for the shoes commonly worn when "stepping out". It picks up on an old industry term for such, "pumps".
The term was used in a song by Amy Winehouse. In fact, it's the title. You can find it yourself easily enough. It is a consensual song, as I understand these things. (Man, that woman could SING!) Not the only such she wrote. That's how you get to die at 27.
Anyway, when I saw the phrase for the first time, I understood it immediately.

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Yep, tje kry phrase was
Jun 5, 2019 3:43PM PDT

"In MY court..."

I was also surprised at the mandatory aspect of it. That's where I'm firmly on the women's side.
Pros: titillating the male co-workers.
Cons: how much time do you have? Bad health, discomfort, safety, expense ...

In the pictures most of the women are wearing 'sensible heels', if there is such a thing, not Melanias. (Is she the wife?)
Can they be worn without the Cons, above? I'd like that, but only on a voluntary basis.

They "come with" some occupations, mainly in entertainment. That won't change, so the woman would have to find another day job.

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(NT) the key!!! Man, I'm getting old.
Jun 5, 2019 3:44PM PDT
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Ha! Anyway,
Jun 5, 2019 4:46PM PDT

I knew what you meant, 'old man'. ( such to me is a term of endearment).

And I'm older than dirt, as they say - though on occasion perhaps igneous rock would be more appropriate...

Rick " solidity is good, right? " Jones

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That's what I do in NM.
Jun 5, 2019 5:08PM PDT

Imitate the igneous rock.
And the dino fossils.

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This just in.
Jun 6, 2019 2:33AM PDT
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can't believe it
Jun 12, 2019 4:24AM PDT

I mean 'HOW?' how can he be a health minister and say that heals are necessary? I guess I just now realized how lucky I am, being able to go to work wearing sneakers.