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System Restore problems

1) System Restore shows protection is on for 2 of my drives. I only need it on for my C: drive. How can I turn it off for the other drive?

2) When I recently reinstalled Windows, I discovered that the default for creating System Restore points is off (don't create). I turned it on and manually created a point. A couple of programs also created points before making changes to the registry. Yet, when I just clicked on System Restore, a message was displayed that there were no System Restore points. But when I checked, I found that 7MB of disk space allocated to System Restore were in use. I created another point and it now shows me that 9.67MB are in use. And when I click on System Restore, it shows me that last System Restore point. Why isn't it aware of the earlier points?

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Clarification Request
Are you using

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The 2nd drive for Back up and Restore ?

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If you mean

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the drive that I want to turn off protection for, the answer is a very equivocal no. In other words, I have no idea. Configure doesn't offer the option to specify where backups are stored.

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Are you reporting it's broken?

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That helped with question 1

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I didn't realize that you need to highlight a specific drive, which would allow you to configure for just that drive. I've turned off System Restore for that second drive. And as a result of this newfound knowledge, I got to see something else that explained something that was bothering me. I couldn't understand how System Restore was only using <10MB of space. It's using over 500MB for my C: drive.

Any ideas on question 2?

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I'm unsure what the issue is with SR and drive space use.

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Drive C likely has the Windows OS so SR should use more space. I can't know what is on other drives but no Windows so a lot less use.

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A lot more space?

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How much space does a typical SR backup of the Windows drive use?

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Can't answer. But why?

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Because your Windows install is unlike mine and there are settings to limit space plus more reasons. I see nothing wrong with SR using space. Space is cheap. Recovery is expensive or time consuming when SR doesn't work.

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I think we've misunderstood each other

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and somehow got off on a tangent.

My second question was why Windows Restore only offers one restore point, the one I created yesterday. from the fact that SR was using drive space, it appears that it did indeed create the restore points it was instructed to earlier. So why aren't they appearing?

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SR is sadly

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Not well documented. You would have to ask Microsoft why. I have yet to find good answers. That is, they do write what it should do but don't seem to cover cases like this. I have never got a good answer so I doubt you will ever get a straight answer.

But I can't tell if you've tinkered with the settings. many do and later I get to see the PC and find out they limited SR space or what drives. Here's the BIG DEAL. SR is great when it works. But it might not work. This is why on PCs, Smart Phones, Apple and more we backup what we can't lose.

Post was last edited on February 8, 2018 2:20 PM PST

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Weird

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I just checked to make sure I gave you an accurate answer and found inexplicable data. The space allocated to SR is 10GB. Earlier today, I wrote you that 500MB+ was in use. Now, it shows over 2GB in use, but still only that one restore point.

And, yes, I use Macrium Reflect to back up. I'd just like to have SR working reliably because I'm a belt and suspenders kind of guy.

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Here's what I do to SR.

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Very little. I leave it on defaults but if I feel I am in good shape and won't use SR I'll turn it off and back on. This avoids an age old issue with SR getting senile the longer it runs. Not scientific but I've seen it fail to restore but it seems when you turn it off and back on it gives it a fresh start.

I can't imagine why you would disable it on a drive but your choice.

SR is frankly unreliable. This is why folk backup what they can't lose.

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I disabled it

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for a drive that doesn't contain Windows. Why would I want to bother?

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Because it's space use is minimal

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And you could trip up SR. You write you want it to work right but 10GB may not be enough given some of the larger updates we've seen.

Why not use what Microsoft set it to?

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Minimal space use

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isn't a reason to use RS on a drive that doesn't contain Windows. That's like buying an item you don't want because it's on sale.

The 10GB allocation for my C: drive IS what Microsoft set it to.

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Then when it fails.

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You have nothing to complain to Microsoft about.

Disk space is cheap, recovery is hard work. Why chance it?

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I don't get it, Bob

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The drive doesn't contain Windows. What would SR back up and restore? All I've got on that drive are documents, which SR doesn't back up.

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Let's say you do what I do.

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And install an app on other than drive C. I do this since my C drive is SSD and smaller than the second big HDD.

So if an app had a change, I can't be sure of rolling it back. Windows Office changes are tracked in SR.

But hey, you make changes, you live when it fails. There are long long discussions on SR. I'm sticking to simple. Put it to stock, give SR loads of space and enjoy.

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Example about other than C drive discussion.

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Again, Bob, I just have documents on that second drive

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If you mean that simply turning off protection for a drive that doesn't need it is tinkering with SR and could mess it up, I can only respond to that by pointing out that my earlier restore points were missing even before I "tinkered."

I'm inclined to agree with you that Sr being a Microsoft product, it's a given that it will be buggy. And it doesn't require tinkering for it to misbehave.

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I may be repeating myself.

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Your choice. But then again you want it to work. Since we know it's not bulletproof and Microsoft has never came right out and documented exactly how it works outside of technically superficial pages, my view is to leave it turned on and never tinker with it.

Just me and a lot of history since it's early days (XP, remember?) I've been around since before Windows and have worked untold number of PC disasters so this is what I've learned.

Why not make your bets and take your chances?

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We've both been in computers for a long time

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I began with IBM mainframes before personal computers existed. Then CPM-80 (remember that?!).

At any rate, since my early restore points weren't there before I changed anything, I can't agree that SR's defaults are the solution to my problem.

Thanks very much, Bob. Let's leave it here.

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Go into

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System Properties,
Click on System Protection tab
Than set which disc you choose and
Set amount of Disc Space you want

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Thank you, itsdigger

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but as you can see from my last post, it's already set to 10GB.

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