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Question

System Restore Points

Apr 14, 2016 3:50PM PDT

Previous Windows OS created Restore Points at each startup. I appears Windows 10 only does this, if something is going to update the computer. Is this true ?

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I never saw that happen.
Apr 14, 2016 5:47PM PDT

The only time I found new restore points was if I asked it to make one or there was a system change. I never found it to make on or startup.

So I have to write that all is false here.

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System restore points
Apr 15, 2016 4:00PM PDT

Then I suppose this doesn't happen.

System Restore not creating automatic System Checkpoints on my machine?

Published: June 2004
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Symptom
By default, System Restore creates automatic Restore Points (called as "System Checkpoints") every 24 Hrs. Many users complain that "System Checkpoints" are not created or created apparently random. There are two reasons for this:

Case 1
The Automatic System Restore point depends upon Task Scheduler service, though Scheduled Tasks will not show System Restore as a job. System Restore Checkpoints may not be created if Task Scheduler service is Stopped.

Case 2
System Restore requires the machine to be in an idle state to create system check points. This is by design so that System Restore never intrudes when the user is using the machine by taking processing power to create a system checkpoint. Hence, if system restore never sees any idle time on the machine, it will not be able to create System Checkpoints. This usually occurs if an virus scan is running and the anti-virus software is running.

System Restore Service needs to be running in both cases.

Solution
First, make sure if the System Restore and Task Scheduler service are running and set to Automatic. To manage the Services configuration, type "services.msc" in the RUN box. Double-click each of the services and set them to Automatic. Restart Windows XP.

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Well you can create them
Apr 15, 2016 4:05AM PDT

manually. Sometimes programs like CCleaner ask you if you want to create a restore point when you are cleaning out your registry.

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System Restore Points
Apr 15, 2016 5:44AM PDT

Answer the question - is it supposed to create a restore point at startup or not ?

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Not For Windows System Restore
Apr 15, 2016 5:30AM PDT

There's 3rd party tools that work similarly (Rollback rx, Comodo Time Machine, etc) that can do this but not for Windows System Restore.

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System Restore Points
Apr 15, 2016 5:46AM PDT

Is it supposed to create restore points at startup or not ? I am not interested in your explanation of 3rd party software.

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No, it isn't.
Apr 15, 2016 6:09AM PDT

It didn't do it in any previous versions of Windows, and it still doesn't do in Windows 10. Why do you think it used to do?

Your question already was answered by R.Proffitt (the first answer in this thread). Repeating the question doesn't change the answer.

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System Restore Point
Apr 15, 2016 10:56AM PDT

You are wrong, hotshot ! Windows XP Definitely created a restore point on the 1st boot of a given day, and if it was not the Home edition, then it was the Pro version. I used XP for years, and would go thru the log and delete the entries. That is why I reasked the question.

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then that system had a problem
Apr 15, 2016 12:31PM PDT

You could open Help and go into the Restore section and check things out there.

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Just for a check
Apr 15, 2016 12:45PM PDT

I have 2 remaining XP laptops and both are in stock form.

I checked and XP does not in stock form create a SR checkpoint.

Since there are ways to make it do that, all I can add is it's not stock behavior.

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system restore points
Apr 15, 2016 4:02PM PDT

System Restore not creating automatic System Checkpoints on my machine?

Published: June 2004
Send your feedback
Symptom
By default, System Restore creates automatic Restore Points (called as "System Checkpoints") every 24 Hrs. Many users complain that "System Checkpoints" are not created or created apparently random. There are two reasons for this:

Case 1
The Automatic System Restore point depends upon Task Scheduler service, though Scheduled Tasks will not show System Restore as a job. System Restore Checkpoints may not be created if Task Scheduler service is Stopped.

Case 2
System Restore requires the machine to be in an idle state to create system check points. This is by design so that System Restore never intrudes when the user is using the machine by taking processing power to create a system checkpoint. Hence, if system restore never sees any idle time on the machine, it will not be able to create System Checkpoints. This usually occurs if an virus scan is running and the anti-virus software is running.

System Restore Service needs to be running in both cases.

Solution
First, make sure if the System Restore and Task Scheduler service are running and set to Automatic. To manage the Services configuration, type "services.msc" in the RUN box. Double-click each of the services and set them to Automatic. Restart Windows XP.

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System restore points
Apr 15, 2016 3:49PM PDT

Because I know you turned on system restore points in XP. This is for the registry, not backing up your files or entire drive. You telling me this didn't happen in XP ?

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doesn't matter
Apr 15, 2016 4:04PM PDT

1) doesn't matter since you aren't running that anymore

2) as I recall you could set a limit on how many restore points would be created.

3) I never recall a new restore point being created every day.

4) I'm booting XP to take a look.

Oh here it is. Nope, don't see every day as an option.

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System restore points
Apr 15, 2016 4:13PM PDT

Read this. I know restore points were automatic if you turned them on !
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/checkpoints.htm

System Restore not creating automatic System Checkpoints on my machine?

Published: June 2004
Send your feedback
Symptom
By default, System Restore creates automatic Restore Points (called as "System Checkpoints") every 24 Hrs. Many users complain that "System Checkpoints" are not created or created apparently random. There are two reasons for this:

Case 1
The Automatic System Restore point depends upon Task Scheduler service, though Scheduled Tasks will not show System Restore as a job. System Restore Checkpoints may not be created if Task Scheduler service is Stopped.

Case 2
System Restore requires the machine to be in an idle state to create system check points. This is by design so that System Restore never intrudes when the user is using the machine by taking processing power to create a system checkpoint. Hence, if system restore never sees any idle time on the machine, it will not be able to create System Checkpoints. This usually occurs if an virus scan is running and the anti-virus software is running.

System Restore Service needs to be running in both cases.

Solution
First, make sure if the System Restore and Task Scheduler service are running and set to Automatic. To manage the Services configuration, type "services.msc" in the RUN box. Double-click each of the services and set them to Automatic. Restart Windows XP.

Creating System Restore points using a script
To create a Restore Point automatically using a script, copy the contents to a notepad, save as CreateRP.VBS

set SRP = getobject("winmgmts:\\.\root\default:Systemrestore")
CSRP = SRP.createrestorepoint ("Created a Restore Point now", 0, 100)

To create a Restore Point, just double-click the CreateRP.VBS file which you've just created.

Daily Restore Point during the first boot-up of the day
Visit the following page for a script that checks if there are any System Restore points already created for the current day. If no System Restore point exists for the current day, the script creates a System Restore point.

How to automatically create a System Restore point upon the first boot up of the day?

References
Create System Restore Points Quickly using Script in Windows Vista and Windows XP
Quickly reset all the System Restore points
Print the list of all available System Restore points to a file
Use System Restore with Windows Management Instrumentation
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OK, you found the answer
Apr 15, 2016 4:23PM PDT

but what's the point of it? That's XP. I ran my XP with taskmanager turned off all the time. I made my System Restore points myself manually at times, but I did have set for Automatic. Too bad they had to break it up like that, but that's Microsoft.

What service pack was that for, because in SP3 even when I turned that on, it didn't seem to do it everyday. Maybe they changed it then?

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System restore points
Apr 15, 2016 4:42PM PDT

The point is at startup a checkpoint is taken, before some virus or other malware or a screwed up install can disrupt the system. you can repair the registry to prior to that event. That was in XP/SP3. and mine was created every day because I had to periodically got to the directory and delete prior entries.

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NY - Did this solve your W10 problem?
Apr 15, 2016 5:00PM PDT

NT

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System restore points
Apr 15, 2016 4:01PM PDT

System Restore not creating automatic System Checkpoints on my machine?

Published: June 2004
Send your feedback
Symptom
By default, System Restore creates automatic Restore Points (called as "System Checkpoints") every 24 Hrs. Many users complain that "System Checkpoints" are not created or created apparently random. There are two reasons for this:

Case 1
The Automatic System Restore point depends upon Task Scheduler service, though Scheduled Tasks will not show System Restore as a job. System Restore Checkpoints may not be created if Task Scheduler service is Stopped.

Case 2
System Restore requires the machine to be in an idle state to create system check points. This is by design so that System Restore never intrudes when the user is using the machine by taking processing power to create a system checkpoint. Hence, if system restore never sees any idle time on the machine, it will not be able to create System Checkpoints. This usually occurs if an virus scan is running and the anti-virus software is running.

System Restore Service needs to be running in both cases.

Solution
First, make sure if the System Restore and Task Scheduler service are running and set to Automatic. To manage the Services configuration, type "services.msc" in the RUN box. Double-click each of the services and set them to Automatic. Restart Windows XP.

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System restore points
Apr 15, 2016 4:00PM PDT

System Restore not creating automatic System Checkpoints on my machine?

Published: June 2004
Send your feedback
Symptom
By default, System Restore creates automatic Restore Points (called as "System Checkpoints") every 24 Hrs. Many users complain that "System Checkpoints" are not created or created apparently random. There are two reasons for this:

Case 1
The Automatic System Restore point depends upon Task Scheduler service, though Scheduled Tasks will not show System Restore as a job. System Restore Checkpoints may not be created if Task Scheduler service is Stopped.

Case 2
System Restore requires the machine to be in an idle state to create system check points. This is by design so that System Restore never intrudes when the user is using the machine by taking processing power to create a system checkpoint. Hence, if system restore never sees any idle time on the machine, it will not be able to create System Checkpoints. This usually occurs if an virus scan is running and the anti-virus software is running.

System Restore Service needs to be running in both cases.

Solution
First, make sure if the System Restore and Task Scheduler service are running and set to Automatic. To manage the Services configuration, type "services.msc" in the RUN box. Double-click each of the services and set them to Automatic. Restart Windows XP.

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This is not the same as your top post.
Apr 15, 2016 4:47PM PDT

Above I read you wanting it on every startup. And now we are getting lost over what XP did and what later versions do. I think you should make your decision what you want Windows to do and then fix it so it does what you want.

This area seems to upset folk. That is, defaults may not be acceptable to you. That's your choice. So let's dispense with the past and focus on getting your setup to doing what you want.

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I think he should start a new W10 thread
Apr 15, 2016 4:58PM PDT

This should have been in the XP or now I think it's the Legacy Windows forum area.

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Don't care antmore- idiots !
Apr 15, 2016 5:02PM PDT

I am only answering what people of your kind reply as an answer. And apparently they don't know too much. I merely compared to xp because I know it created auto restore points, then it went off from there. Delete the whole dame post, as I can't get an answer from you morons anyhow !

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Your top post
Apr 15, 2016 5:12PM PDT

And later disagree on what XP did. I know that can upset folk so let's reset and try again.

I know some folk want to be "correct" but here I don't mind. If you want to change SR to make a point on every startup.... Let's discuss that.

https://www.google.com/#q=schedule+restore+point+in+windows+10+site:www.tenforums.com finds that Windows XP, 7 and 8 do differ on automatic creation. So while there are some that want to debate what each OS did, let's make it do what you want.

http://www.tenforums.com/performance-maintenance/26032-scheduling-system-restore-point-creation.html seems to answer how to setup the schedule.

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Re: daily restore points
Apr 16, 2016 1:20AM PDT
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/createrp.htm tells how to set this up in Windows XP. It certainly isn't the default behaviour, so if your PC did it, somebody (you?) must have installed such a script.

Maybe the same script works in Windows 10. Maybe it doesn't.
It's up to you (or whoever did in on your Windows XP PC, if you can't do it yourself) to try.

Can you tell the outcome of your experiments?

Kees
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good tips
Apr 27, 2016 2:44AM PDT