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System restore

Aug 29, 2004 11:21PM PDT

I need to use system restore but am not clear on how to choose a a restore point. If you select a restore point when something was installed, does the system go back to right before it was installed or does the program stay installed?

Gwendolyn

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Which System restore?
Aug 30, 2004 12:02AM PDT

from the OS like ME or XP, or from the PC like Gateway etc? Mostly, sys res restores the registry and the added stuff is still there but not listed, especially in add/remove programs. Use this first, safe mode, to uninstall what caused the problem.

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Re: Which System restore?
Aug 30, 2004 12:17AM PDT

Oh, sorry. For Win XP. I set up wireless internet on my son's computer last week, it worked on and off for a couple of days. He messed with some settings and now it connects but he can't get online. I've tried to figure out how to fix it but am not having success. I want to go back to right before he changed the settings--I've tried resetting things but am getting frustrated. I don't want to uninstall/reinstall the adapter, although maybe that would be better?

At any rate, I would like to understand if picking the restore point means you keep that installation or lose it.

Thanks,

Gwendolyn

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same answer
Aug 30, 2004 3:11AM PDT

XP sys res will restore "registry". It won't uninstall anything nor recover what has been deleted.
Best to now uninstall and then reinstall your wireless stuff.
If that doesn't work well, uninstall again and then choose the point (date) before you added this.
then install your wireless. Then pour some oatmeal over your son's head.
Once kids find out they can mess with stuff and it can be fixed, they will mess with other stuff.
I like to partition the hdd for 2 installs of XP so that kids can have their own, and they won't affect yours. Then if they mess up, they can sit on a tack and wait till it gets fixed.
But this is a lot of trouble compared to the oatmeal.

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Re: Which System restore?
Aug 30, 2004 4:00AM PDT

I don't have (and only superficially know) Windows XP, but the only reasonable answer is that a system restore point reflects the state of the system the moment it is made. And in XP, it's definitely more that just the registry, as shown by this two Microsoft articles:

A lot more (albeit a little bit technical) information in http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnwxp/html/windowsxpsystemrestore.asp

And this is the list of all monitored file extensions: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/sr/sr/monitored_file_extensions.asp

Hope this helps.


Kees

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I sit corrected.
Aug 30, 2004 10:23AM PDT

Thanks for that info. It pointe to her original question "which restore point". According to this, she could choose a restore point [if created] when the wireless was first installed and operational. Yes?
A few I've run into disabled sys res to save Hdd space.

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Still confused???
Aug 30, 2004 12:06PM PDT

My understand is if a restore point is made when something is installed it will be immediately before the installation. Assuming I am correct you need to find a restore point subsequent to the install but before your son performed his surgery.

Hope this helps. David Chan knows for sure. Do a search for one of his posts and send him an CNet system e-mail. I think he has enabled this feature.

Glenn

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Re: Still confused???
Aug 30, 2004 1:10PM PDT

Thank you all--I have learned quite a bit about system restore. Actually, there is good news. I gave checking the configurations he messed with one more try and got the dang internet to come up by accident! (He checked something under authentication, which I unchecked out of desperation and the unlikely occurred).

I do think the oatmeal idea would be good right about now, just on principle. Thanks for your help!

Gwendolyn

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Re: Still confused???
Aug 31, 2004 5:46AM PDT

Gwendolyn

For what it may be worth.

In the Control Panel you can set up user accounts.

Yourself as administrator, with full control of system, and a limited account for your son. Meaning that he cannot make system wide changes.

The user account window help links will do a better job than I can in explaining the different accounts.

Bill

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Re: Still confused???
Aug 31, 2004 9:20AM PDT

Thanks, I should have done that. I did with my other son, being younger he didn't care what I did as long as he had his laptop--never thought about it this time. I will do that post haste. That will make my life so much easier. Thanks a lot,

Gwendolyn