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Syntax Olevia LT26HVX

by nricexbox / August 19, 2016 8:07 AM PDT

If the model number doesn't give it away, this is an older monitor/TV. Probably around 10 years old at this point. Since I bought it, I've had to use a DVI to HDMI converter in order to play PS3. It worked fine up until recently. I started to get a "Not Supported" message when plugging everything in and turning everything on once I switched to the DVI Source. (I hadn't been using it for my PS3 for a few years).

Thinking it could be an easy fix, I replaced both the HDMI cord and DVI/HDMI adapter. Still the same problem. I have tried restarting the PS3 and turning the TV off to see if that would help. So far, nothing. I currently have the TV unplugged and I'm hoping that corrects this (I found that idea on a random forum this morning that had someone troubleshooting a bad DVI port). This is the only problem I've ever had with it. Just seems odd that one port would randomly go. I'm also hoping to not need a new TV in order to fix the problem.

Any thoughts on how I could fix this?

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I think the TV has a DVI port.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / August 19, 2016 8:21 AM PDT
In reply to: Syntax Olevia LT26HVX

DVI did not mandate HDCP so to fix this you have to find something that is illegal here called a HDCP STRIPPER. Remember this is not legal in the USA so I can't tell you much about it.

It's most likely not a bad DVI port but the HDCP is mandated if the source has HDMI. There used to be some wiggle in that spec that is now gone.

Post was last edited on August 19, 2016 8:21 AM PDT

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Why now?
by nricexbox / August 19, 2016 8:46 AM PDT

Why would it be a problem now though? Wouldn't I have had this problem earlier if this was the case? Yes, the TV does have a DVI port. No HDMI port. That's why I need the converter. I'll do some research and see what I can find out about that stripper. Thanks for the reply!

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Why now. Time passes, content and machines
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / August 23, 2016 8:53 AM PDT
In reply to: Why now?

Now implement HDCP and the strippers may or may not actually work as it's sort of an arms race. Plus that isn't legal in some countries.

PS3 updates could have "fixed" your fix.

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How?
by nricexbox / August 23, 2016 9:07 AM PDT

I thought implementing HDCP was just plugging in the stripper....?

I'm coming to realize that it may have been an update that did this. Seems ridiculous. I love PlayStation, but this and no back compatibility just seem dumb.

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I can not tell you how.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / August 23, 2016 9:30 AM PDT
In reply to: How?

Just that PS3 and such machines do update and again, it's an Arms Race of copy protection. Sony has many patents and ideas about protecting content.

-> Why is all this dumb? DVI never mandated HDCP so while HDMI did mandate HDCP why are you asking about back compatibility where there was none in the first place?

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By "how" i meant
by nricexbox / August 23, 2016 9:44 AM PDT

How do I implement HDCP? The way you said it made me think there was more than just plugging my cords into the splitter.

I just find these changes unnecessary...but maybe there is something I don't know. I bring up backwards compatibility because PS4 doesn't offer it. It is a feature whose omission I find unnecessary.

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You don't implement HDCP
by Pepe7 / August 23, 2016 10:04 AM PDT
In reply to: By "how" i meant

It is implemented on you.

This is why you need a new display which is compliant.

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Read that wrong
by nricexbox / August 23, 2016 10:10 AM PDT

Ohhh, I read your comment wrong! Thought there was something for me to do. At this time, a new TV is out of the question. I'm going to try playing with the resolution as well as an HDMI to analog adapter as well tonight. Hopefully something works.

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Sadly, you miss the entire thread entirely
by Pepe7 / August 23, 2016 9:24 PM PDT
In reply to: Read that wrong

There *is* no workaround, other than buying a new HDTV. HDMI to Analog is a non-starter. Sorry.

HDTVs are dirt cheap now. Good grief. Look at the values in the 32" size. Craigslist or even a scratch and dent with a single working HDMI port could get you by until you could afford a monster upgrade Wink

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May not be a work around, but...
by nricexbox / August 24, 2016 7:24 AM PDT

Pressing and holding the PS3's on/off button for a few seconds until the screen changed certainly did the trick on the video side! Then the composite cord for it actually came in handy for the audio!

As much as I would love an excuse to buy a new TV (this one is 10 yrs old and 26 in), it would have been a waste to do so just to play PS3 when I can still watch movies on it and go in the other room and play PS4.

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Bought a DVI Splitter...
by nricexbox / August 23, 2016 7:14 AM PDT

I looked up that term HDCP and quickly found this site. That directed me toward a DVI Splitter (which it says is a stripper). Still not working. I'll try looking up more work arounds today, but so the splitter/stripper has come up short. This is using a brand new DVI to HDMI adapter along with two brand new HDMI cords.

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There is no easy fix
by Pepe7 / August 23, 2016 8:33 AM PDT

Eventually, you find either titles or players updated to prevent workarounds as such.

FWIW, there are about a million sites still selling 'splitters' as 'strippers' just to make a buck.

Unfortunately, you need a new HDTV. Figure, you got ten years out of the last one, which is fairly reasonable.

cheers

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But that's just the thing
by nricexbox / August 23, 2016 8:58 AM PDT
In reply to: There is no easy fix

The TV still works great aside from this. I watch stuff off my computer or rabbit ears every day.

Was it some update to the PS3 that did this? It's not like the hardware changed...

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Yes
by Pepe7 / August 23, 2016 10:03 AM PDT

Precisely.

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Glimmer of hope
by nricexbox / August 23, 2016 5:27 PM PDT

The Playstation Support forums have delivered a partial remedy...if I press and hold the PS3's on/off button for a few seconds, the signal does pick up again because I've apparently reset the A/V settings for the PS3. Unfortunately, I can select yes, no, or cancel to using the detected HDMI source and the screen goes black. That tells me it still is getting something because it's blue otherwise. Not sure where to go from here...

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For that screen
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / August 23, 2016 5:47 PM PDT
In reply to: Glimmer of hope

I had to use the composite PS3 cable to set it up again.

(Yes, I have a PS3 here.)

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Bingo
by nricexbox / August 23, 2016 6:11 PM PDT
In reply to: For that screen

That did it! Thanks!

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Edit to last post
by nricexbox / August 23, 2016 5:47 PM PDT
In reply to: Glimmer of hope

I got a bit too eager...

Video works.
Audio does not. When I go into the Sound settings and try to pick, it says there is no HDMI for sound detected.

Ideas?

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Which swings us back to the top about HDMI, HDCP and more.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / August 23, 2016 7:11 PM PDT
In reply to: Edit to last post

You're going in circles. Sony and the industry mandates HDCP for HDMI output so while there was a time of leniency, that ended about 2010.

Post was last edited on August 24, 2016 10:37 AM PDT

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As you directed
by nricexbox / August 24, 2016 7:20 AM PDT

I used the composite PS3 cable and solved the audio problem.

Did not realize those ports even existed on my TV and they've been in plain sight the whole time....

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Turn off your PS3 updates if possible
by Pepe7 / August 24, 2016 10:30 AM PDT
In reply to: As you directed

Glad you found a workaround, but keep in mind another round of updates has the potential to wipe out your current fix Sad

cheers

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