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Swatting at Flies

Apr 9, 2004 11:37PM PDT

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I see something new, Evie...
Apr 10, 2004 1:09AM PDT

Evie, I see something new in the current situation. Before 9/11, there were incidents. A Marine barracks was bombed, but after that people in the U.S. felt personally safe. After all, they weren't in the Marines and in a combat zone. A Navy ship was bombed, but for the same reason, people in the U.S. felt personally safe. There was no draft, and even if there was, a great number of people in the U.S. would be ineligible. The great mass of people felt personally safe.
9/11 changed all that. The "combat zone" suddenly became in part office buildings in the U.S., and a great many U.S. citizens came to the shocking realization that they were now in a combat zone. But there is a major difference in this new zone--age, asthma or allergy to a drug does not get you an exemption and keep you far away from this new combat zone and safe. Now, the zone is expanding to things like trains, subways, hotels and possibly any city or place in the U.S. due to chemical, biological, or explosive substances. The entire country and any person living in it could now find himself a casualty.
What should be done? Should Bush have let 9/11 "slide" and hope that they wouldn't do such a thing again? Should we elect Kerry and have him withdraw all troops from the Middle East and "apologize" to the radical Muslims? Somehow, I don't think that such would satify them and again make the average citizen in the U.S. again "safe". If we blame 9/11 on Bush, would that satisfy them and again regain that safety? Again, I doubt it.
A new form of warfare has hit the U.S., and Pandora's box will never be closed. Trying to blame the opening of that box on somebody in the U.S. for political purposes will not close that box, now we must find a way to deal with the terrorists that opened it. Kerry's shying away from these facts and not coming forth with his thoughts about a solution does not help, nor does the Democrat's attempts to blame the new situation on Bush. The basic situation is "now what do we do?", and needs to be addressed.

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Re: Swatting at Flies
Apr 10, 2004 1:44AM PDT

Hi, Evie.

For once, a thoughtful piece at that site -- about the first one I've seen there that isn't "knee-jerk conservative." However, Kerrey's attack at Rice's terminology was right on the mark. Rice may not have actually lied under oath, but she certainly used misleading language throughout. Kerrey called her on one such example. It sounds like soon we'll all be able to decide for ourselves on another -- whether that PDB was merely "historical." BTW, don't expect them to declassify it in its entirety -- I expect lots of black markthroughs, which will further enrage many of the 9/11 families.

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Re:Re: Swatting at Flies
Apr 10, 2004 3:30AM PDT

Hi Dave,

Any common sense person without biased blinders on knows that the change of course from "swatting at flies" referred to the 8 yr. response to attack after attack by Clinton, and, frankly by administrations before that. Kerrey was disrespectful and made a fool of himself.

Re-read (or read) the VDH piece I linked to as a "must read". This 9/11 Commission has turned into a circus and it won't matter a hoot what they come up with, there will always be those who have better than 20/20 hindsight. Let's just say the memo says planes will be hijacked to be flown into a building. So Bush ordered a shut down of all airports. Imagine! Sheesh!!

Evie Happy

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Come out into the light, just once,
Apr 10, 2004 5:00AM PDT

Take a good look around, and arrange things
in your mind.

With all due sympathy and respect for the families
of the victims of 9-11, answering their outrage (as
you characterize it) is not the reason for the 9-11
inquiry.

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And furthermore,
Apr 10, 2004 6:45AM PDT

The only outrage for that event should rightly be directed at those who planned, financed, perpretrated and applauded that despicable act.

Bo