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Suspicions confirmed??? Secret US plans for Iraq's oil.

by Ziks511 / March 18, 2005 1:33 AM PST

Secret US plans for Iraq's oil before 9/11
By Greg Palast BBC Newsnight.

"The Bush administration made plans for war and for Iraq's oil before the 9/11 attacks, sparking a policy battle between neo-cons and Big Oil, BBC's Newsnight has revealed."

"Insiders told Newsnight that planning began "within weeks" of Bush's first taking office in 2001, long before the September 11th attack on the US."

Sure does explain a lot, including the Bush Administrations endless war of words from the beginning of the Administration and the quick linking of Iraq and Al Qaeda in the absence of any evidence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm

Say it ain't so George, say it ain't so. Yeah, right.

Rob Boyter

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yup sure makes sence as why ol prices are so high
by Mark5019 / March 18, 2005 1:38 AM PST

your so right lol but nice try

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Curious about something in that article
by TONI H / March 18, 2005 1:48 AM PST

in that the 'insurgents used this information to fire up the country to fight the coalition' (my wording).

Any thought to the possibility that this leaked information to insurgents could have been done deliberately in order to guarantee that they would all gather in one place to fight the coalition, which in effect took most of the pressure off other countries having to deal with their random attacks?

There have been many covert types of actions over history and this could actually have been one of those actions again as a strategic military plan.

It just seems strange to me that with all the rumors that were going around right from the beginning of the war in Iraq and since all of these parties knew about these 'meetings' and 'documents' laying out this oil "plan".....and with the election year for our Presidency at stake......why are these documents and statements just NOW coming to light when the opportunity to break this wide open has been there all along?

I think I'll wait for the movie.......

TONI

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(NT) (NT) kerry can write the script how may retakes?
by Mark5019 / March 18, 2005 2:03 AM PST
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No,
by duckman / March 18, 2005 2:06 AM PST

No American (sane) officer would use his troops like that for bait

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could have been done deliberately in order to guarantee
by JP Bill / March 18, 2005 3:08 AM PST

that they would all gather in one place to fight

The President said (I'm paraphrasing here) "we'll fight them on their soil"

The President invited them

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But the icing on the cake
by TONI H / March 18, 2005 3:27 AM PST

to make sure they showed up for the 'party' would be to leak false info to them, doncha think? This article shows that the insurgents knew about the "plan" and acted on it.....and Bush's statement makes it seem like that 'plan' might have worked.

So what's your point? If I remember correctly, Bush didn't make that statement until quite a while after we got there and realized we were fighting the 'new' guys in town.

TONI

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Liberal media
by duckman / March 18, 2005 3:30 AM PST

"retrofitting" history to fit their agenda

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(NT) (NT) Okay Duckman who do you listen to in the media?
by Ziks511 / March 18, 2005 8:15 AM PST
In reply to: Liberal media
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Why is it, that only the Liberals in SE......
by Glenda / March 18, 2005 6:54 AM PST

see conspiracies all over the place???

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(NT) (NT) they have tin foil stock?
by Mark5019 / March 18, 2005 6:55 AM PST
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I think......
by Glenda / March 18, 2005 8:20 AM PST

I hear The Twilight Zone Theme song in the back ground;)

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(NT) (NT) lol or outer limits lol
by Mark5019 / March 18, 2005 8:37 AM PST
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You read my mind:)
by Glenda / March 18, 2005 10:34 AM PST

It was my second choice;)

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Perhaps because the President is a Republican at this point
by Ziks511 / March 19, 2005 6:24 AM PST

in time. I clearly remember all the Republican conspiracy theories floating around Bill Clinton, having suffered through Rush Limbaugh, and a friends addiction to the more extreme Right wing theories, like the suspicious death of Vince Foster. (He was killed at the behest of the President because He Knew Too Much).

I don't think it was a conspiracy, but I don't think Geo. W. invaded Iraq on a whim either. I think he wanted to invade, and grabbed the first obvious opportunity that afforded itself. I also think that had things gone differently, a more settled Middle East and no 9/11 he mightn't have invaded at all. I don't see conspiracy, I see opportunism and a belief he was doing the right thing. I just dispute his judgement.

Rob Boyter

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You dispute his judgment
by Evie / March 19, 2005 7:25 AM PST

I'm sure he'll take that under advisement Devil

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(NT) (NT) for foreign affairs:)
by Mark5019 / March 19, 2005 9:16 AM PST
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The Bush Administration has made abundantly clear -
by Josh K / March 18, 2005 3:30 AM PST

- heck, they've pretty much admitted - that they had not anticipated the insurgency at all, never mind how organized it would or would not be. The 1,500+ body bags should be enough illustration of how well planned this war was.

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(NT) (NT) yes and saddams 100,000 landfill is much more
by Mark5019 / March 18, 2005 3:46 AM PST
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(NT) (NT) List several of the best "Planned" wars
by duckman / March 18, 2005 3:49 AM PST
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You do realize
by EdH / March 18, 2005 7:20 AM PST

that 1500 dead over a two year war is an amazingly low number compared to previous wars?

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(NT) (NT) or the 100,000 dead in mass grave from saddam
by Mark5019 / March 18, 2005 7:22 AM PST
In reply to: You do realize
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I'm sure the parents of the dead soldiers....
by Josh K / March 21, 2005 12:54 AM PST
In reply to: You do realize

....will take great comfort in that, especially after seeing the Commander-in-Chief joke about the fruitless search for WMDs that got them killed.

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No more so than
by TONI H / March 21, 2005 1:30 AM PST

the parents of kids who are molested and killed by our prison 'turn around' system that keeps letting these guys get a walk out the door to do it again.

You hear stories all the time about how these guys don't fair well in prisons, and other prisoners don't take kindly to them.....but most wind up getting out on parole so evidently even in prison, they live a safe and protected life while nothing gets done about protecting the kids from them once they hit the streets. Why not leave those sickies in the general population like the kids are and let them take the same chances to survive?

TONI

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They are much more likely to be bothered ...
by Evie / March 21, 2005 2:42 AM PST

... by Clinton getting a BJ while on the phone with a member of Congress contemplating sending our troops into harm's way. Sheesh Sad

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but thats not sex
by Mark5019 / March 21, 2005 2:53 AM PST

you can talk yourself blue these people dont get it

to bad there not on the front lines or on a check point.

wish i had them with me in country, great way to check out for booby traps

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(NT) (NT) No war goes as planned Josh
by Evie / March 18, 2005 9:06 PM PST
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(NT) (NT) Evie he wouldn't know that or comprehend it
by Mark5019 / March 18, 2005 11:55 PM PST
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I just get a kick out of ...
by Evie / March 19, 2005 2:27 AM PST

... all the liberal Monday morning quarterbacks. Pretty much none of the doomsday scenarios their crystal ball readers envisioned have even come close to fruition!

Evie Happy

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It took the BBC 6 years to produce
by duckman / March 18, 2005 3:02 AM PST

this "evidence" and the American media missed it even though people like dan rather worked full time looking for ANYTHING to bring down Bush? This story will die a quick death like the story last week that the story of how Saddam was captured was faked.

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Ranks right up there with the Bush conspiracy to attack
by Kiddpeat / March 18, 2005 6:01 AM PST

the World Trade Center. I'm sure it's just a matter of time until Mohammad Atta's CIA employment is revealed.

Who do you think shot John Kennedy?

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