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Sun Finally Showing Signs Of Life

by EdHannigan / November 7, 2008 6:07 AM PST
http://www.redorbit.com/news/space/1598837/sun_finally_showing_signs_of_life/

After two-plus years of few sunspots, even fewer solar flares, and a generally eerie calm, the sun is finally showing signs of life.

"I think solar minimum is behind us," says sunspot forecaster David Hathaway of the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center.

His statement is prompted by an October flurry of sunspots. "Last month we counted five sunspot groups," he says. That may not sound like much, but in a year with record-low numbers of sunspots and long stretches of utter spotlessness, five is significant. "This represents a real increase in solar activity."
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You know what this means? The global cooling trend may be stopped in its tracks!
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Hallelujah! Palm Trees in Maryland Coming Soon!
by James Denison / November 7, 2008 7:26 AM PST

Help Global Warming! Create More CO2!!

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In the last 50 years, Palm trees have taken root on the
by Ziks511 / November 8, 2008 10:00 PM PST

South coast of England, on the coast of Wales, and on some southern Islands of the Hebrides.

Quiet Sun periods are low output periods for the Sun, the increase in sunspot activity means it's warming up again. Look it up.

Rob

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The coconuts were carried in
by drpruner / November 8, 2008 11:10 PM PST

by birds.

We're all gonna ... **bonk**

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chinese palms
by James Denison / November 9, 2008 3:00 AM PST

there's some chinese palms which can stand up to winter temps in some cooler areas. http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/470/
On one computer I have a wallpaper of the chinese fan (windmill) palms in China in a snow zone. Few are cold hardy below 20 degrees fahrenheit. Problem with palms is they retain too much water in the trunk and freezing temps then make that water freeze, expand and burst the tubes in side sort of the way it does water pipes if unprotected. I suppose one could make them more winter hardy if water was restricted in the last couple months before freezing temps came, but not sure if that would help that much. The first pictures on this page is what they look like. http://www.coldplant.com/plantlist.asp?ArticleID=21

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They look good. Suggestion:
by drpruner / November 9, 2008 6:33 AM PST
In reply to: chinese palms

Maybe the trunks could be wrapped. Here in NM they sell pipe-wrapping "tape": Two heavy-duty wires and a thermostat that kicks in and out right around freezing point of water, so it really doesn't stay on long under insulation. That setup might be cost-effective for palms. (I use one, glued to a 5-gal bucket, to water my dogs all winter.)

BTW the rough trunks look like that because older leaves were cut off. In the case of tall palms, that's a significant problem for cities in So. Cal. The larger leaves injure or kill if they fall, and the streets need to be blocked for the crews.

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don't get lost here
by James Denison / November 9, 2008 3:37 AM PST
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No ...
by drpruner / November 8, 2008 12:25 AM PST

we're all gonna die.

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(NT) Way to ruin a sunny day there, dr... ;-)
by grimgraphix / November 8, 2008 12:29 AM PST
In reply to: No ...
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Not quite
by James Denison / November 8, 2008 12:55 AM PST
In reply to: No ...

Revelation chapter 16

The fourth angel poured his bowl on the sun, and it was allowed to scorch men with fire; men were scorched by the fierce heat, and they cursed the name of God who had power over these plagues, and they did not repent and give him glory.

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Response
by JP Bill / November 8, 2008 12:59 AM PST
In reply to: Not quite

The fourth angel poured his bowl on the sun, and it was allowed to scorch men with fire; men were scorched by the fierce heat,

Translation?

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take your pick
by James Denison / November 8, 2008 1:14 AM PST
In reply to: Response

Le quatri

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(NT) Good one! That'll teach that unbeliever! :-)
by drpruner / November 8, 2008 1:45 AM PST
In reply to: take your pick
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teach?
by James Denison / November 8, 2008 1:51 AM PST

Maybe the difference between "translation" and "explanation"?

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They all make as much sense to me, as
by JP Bill / November 8, 2008 3:29 AM PST
In reply to: take your pick
The fourth angel poured his bowl on the sun, and it was allowed to scorch men with fire; men were scorched by the fierce heat,

I'm no good at reading between the lines.

so fergitaboutit.
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PS
by JP Bill / November 8, 2008 3:39 AM PST

translation

noun

1. A restating of something in other, especially simpler, words:

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Simpler?! The Bible?!
by drpruner / November 8, 2008 3:41 AM PST
In reply to: PS

But that would make it available to the masses!

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Serious response: In the last days, God puts all kinds
by drpruner / November 8, 2008 1:49 AM PST
In reply to: Response

plagues on mankind, something like Moses vs. Pharaoh.
The big Q is, Is Revelation literal, symbolic, mixture, what?
View of that Q colors one's view of all 21 chapters.

Don't worry; Canada is spared ... God likes curling. Happy

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(NT) How literal were Egypt's woes?
by James Denison / November 8, 2008 1:50 AM PST
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Depends on one's answer to this Q:
by drpruner / November 8, 2008 1:56 AM PST

Is Exodus historical or mythical? You know mine, by now.

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"cursed the name of God who had power over these plagues"
by drpruner / November 8, 2008 1:45 AM PST
In reply to: Not quite

... and that would be, What name?

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whatever's in vogue at the time.
by James Denison / November 8, 2008 1:49 AM PST

Whatever it is, they all seem in agreement on it, don't they? And whatever it is, God accepts it as a curse against him, doesn't he?

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"God accepts it"
by grimgraphix / November 8, 2008 1:59 AM PST

God is pretty good about reading between the lines. Wink

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... or even deeper:
by drpruner / November 8, 2008 2:10 AM PST
In reply to: "God accepts it"

"Then hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and forgive, and do, and give to every man according to his ways, whose heart thou knowest; (for thou, [even] thou only, knowest the hearts of all the children of men;)"

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Speaking of "translation", here's why that's
by drpruner / November 8, 2008 2:08 AM PST

so important to this topic.

"and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD."
Ex. 13:14, majority of Bibles; a generic title, not a specific name.

"and YOU will have to know that I am Jehovah."
Ex. 13:14, minority of Bibles; a specific name, not a title.

13:14 I picked at random; there are about 60 other instances of this statement in Ezekiel. Much of Ezekiel (many believe) has to do with the "last days"; our time (many believe). Soon enough before 'the end of the end' to curse him by name, but not soon enough to get on his good side. Like the people who were pounding on the door of Noah's ark in the rain. (Related Q: Is Genesis historical or mythical?)

In summary: Even the hardest-core 'no Jehovah' folks will have their mind changed by events.

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How did a topic about science become
by EdHannigan / November 8, 2008 5:46 AM PST

a religious discussion?

Yeeesh!

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(NT) Mods were looking the other way. :-)
by drpruner / November 8, 2008 6:06 AM PST
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You might have been able to
by Dan McC / November 9, 2008 4:58 AM PST

keep it more on topic if you'd participated in it.

Just a thought.

Dan

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Now, I note that palm trees are God's creatures ...
by drpruner / November 9, 2008 6:35 AM PST
Happy
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Just another thought
by critic411 / November 9, 2008 7:05 AM PST

Were there any replies that were really on topic?

I suspect Ed has little interest in discussing 4000 year old biblical interpretations.

Unfortunately, there seem to plenty of threads that end up that way.

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