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Suggestion for study...

by J. Vega / September 23, 2008 8:19 AM PDT

If the subject is Freedom of the Press, and especially libel, a suggestion for study would me the Supreme Court case of New York Times Co. v. Sullivan (commonly referred to as Times v. Sullivan). When the subject is Free Speech, that case is as basic to the subject as the case of Roe v. Wade is to another subject.

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(NT) Do you disagree with the courts decision?
by critic411 / September 23, 2008 8:53 AM PDT
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A couple of (possibly) important distinctions ....
by Bill Osler / September 23, 2008 9:55 AM PDT

Not to dismiss the importance of Times v Sullivan but I wonder whether it is relevant in this case.

Libel law is obviously well outside the scope of my day-to-day work, but a couple of obvious points come up. In Times v Sullivan one of the criteria the court used was the fact that Mr. Sullivan was a public figure. I do not know whether the same principles would be applicable in the case of a student accused of hacking into an email account. I'm also not sure that the standards are the same when it comes to comments made in a forum like this as opposed to a press report.

New York Times Co. v. Sullivan - Wikipedia
New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964), was a United States Supreme Court case which established the actual malice standard which has to be met before press reports about public officials or public figures can be considered to be defamation and libel

In a different article a distinction is made:
First Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Though the details vary from state to state, private individuals normally need only to prove negligence on the part of the defendant.

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In the case...
by J. Vega / September 23, 2008 10:24 AM PDT

In the case of the student and the e-mail, his father entered the picture. His father is an elected official, a public official. Libel was mentioned after this fact entered the discussion.
What is the "press"? Is Drudge? Is Joe Blow and and a web news/discussion site he set up? Is this Forum, or specifically discussions of current events on it, under the libel requirements that exist for such discussions at sites like Drudge or Joe Blow? Note: I'm not talking about what Cnet may or may not want to be said about current events, I'm talking about the court's view on a libel case brought due to something said on this Forum.

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If you are simply quoting news sources, I don't see how
by Kiddpeat / September 23, 2008 2:33 PM PDT

anyone can charge libel. The stories of the mail hacking incident, and who is being actively investigated are all over the internet.

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Most here are evolutionists of some kind.
by drpruner / September 23, 2008 2:46 PM PDT

Let Darwinism settle it.
If she survives the flak, it was OK. If not, it was the Circle of Life. Happy

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