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Stopping System Restore on External HD

by Daviddude / September 21, 2008 1:24 AM PDT

Hi People,

I have a HP computer running Windows Media Center 2005 (with all the updates and Service Pack 3) 2.0 GHz dual core processor, 3 Gig of RAM, 250 Gig internal hard drive.
I have an external hard drive (Western Digital 250 gig) that I have assigned it a permanent hard drive letter reference through Disk Management. I have set the System Restore tab in My Computer Properties tab to not moniter this external hard drive K. Problem is that every now and then when I plug in every now and then for backing up my files via Briefcase - this will activate the System Restore function on that hard drive. This usually happens when I have the hard drive plugged in when I either turn off or turn on my computer. I stopped having the hard drive plugged in to hopefully stop the stop the System Restore on that hard drive (and then re-checked the System Restore tab). This morning, I plugged in the external for file backup and just on a hunch I checked the System Restore tab and it said it was monitoring my external hard drive.

Question is, how to I stop this from happening? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

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Why care?
by Kees Bakker / September 21, 2008 1:27 AM PDT

Let system restore do the work the MS engineers designed it for. What's wrong with that?


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by Daviddude / September 21, 2008 1:31 AM PDT
In reply to: Why care?

If something should happen to the external hard drive (say it quits working) and I need to do a system restore it would not work because the external hard drive is part of the system restore process.

Also, System Restore on the external is just using up hard disk space.

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That's a good point.
by Kees Bakker / September 21, 2008 1:38 AM PDT
In reply to: Because...

Let's investigate some things:
1. Is it related to having a fixed drive letter? What happens if you unfix it?
2. When is the folder actually made? When formatting, or triggered by some later event? (that's a difficult question).
3. How much disc space is being used (that's a difficult question also)? If there's no system on it, I expect it won't do much saving of old data either.
4. Is the switching on of the indication related to your using Briefcase? Or does it happen as soon as you connect it.



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by Daviddude / September 21, 2008 4:05 AM PDT
In reply to: That's a good point.

Hi Kees,
Thanks for the reply - you bring up good questions
1. How do I unassign the drive letter to this drive? I just checked in disk management is it as easy as removing the drive assignment?

2. I can't answer this question. I have checked the System Restore monitoring before and after the briefcase update & haven't come to the conclusion that briefcase update triggers it. I have cancelled the autoplay feature of the drive and not cancelled the auto play feature (thinking well maybe if I didn't let the computer scan the entire hard drive and bring up the window that would stop it). I haven't done a format to this drive since the original format to NTFS.

3. When the computer turns on the system restore for that drive 0 it defaults to the standard 12%. Currently I have 189 Gig used on that drive - so that would be 22.68 gig of space used. Minimal I know, but until I burned data to remove and clear up space - I had this drive with only 4 Gig of free space.

4. It seems to be a random occurrence of the System Restore being activated on that drive. I just plugged it in and checked, right now the System Restore tab shows the drive letter but has a status of "offline".

I am at a loss as to what triggers the operating system to turn on system restore for that drive.

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There's been a similar discussion
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / September 21, 2008 5:46 AM PDT
In reply to: ok...

about this in the Computer Help forum here.

Whilst interesting, I fear it doesn't help your difficulty much as the OP says his problem still hasn't been addressed.


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Thanks Mark
by Daviddude / September 21, 2008 6:23 AM PDT

Thanks for the reply and link Mark.

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RE: System restore
by Kees Bakker / September 21, 2008 5:57 AM PDT
In reply to: ok... shows nothing in the registry about drives. indeed shows that system restore is on a drive level. And it shows the possibility to turn it on and off.
Not clear indeed why it should turn on automatically.

To save disc space on a drive, turn it off and on periodically in the GUI. That's a rather bad work-around, but the best I have to offer.

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Thanks Kees
by Daviddude / September 21, 2008 6:25 AM PDT
In reply to: RE: System restore

Thanks for the reply and links Kees.
Interesting reading.

My external hard drive still is showing as Offline (even though it is connected and I have updated my briefcase today)

I will save the links for reference.

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by helljack6 / September 21, 2008 11:21 AM PDT
In reply to: Why care?

You know Kees, I was chewed out earlier in another forum because I was told that my postings were not helping resolve the original issue, I can see that from your posting, the Mods are exempt from that.

To the original poster, in case you missed it from the linked conversation:

System Restore
by helljack6 - 9/17/08 9:37 AM
In reply to: Kees said: by RCF_Rose

Answer to your question is NO. Each drive attached to the system AFTER the system drive does not have a restore point, just a system volume infomation storage point. This is used to reference the MFT, hold useless things such as date/time stamps and other things that end users only see the final product of.

System restore is just that, a tool for restoring the system and all system files pertaining to that system, nothing more or less. That is why if you've ever ran system restore before, you get a warning saying that you won't lose any new files or documents or pictures you may have recently saved during this procedure because those are not affected during the process, ONLY system files, system file states and registry are affected during system restore.

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Did you read ?
by Kees Bakker / September 21, 2008 7:42 PM PDT
In reply to: Helping?

I can't cut and paste from it, because I get the Dutch version which you presumably can't read, but it explicitely says there can be restore points on non-system drives. It's in the second bullit.

So I think you're simply wrong. No problem, can happen.


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I saw, thanks, but look here.
by helljack6 / September 22, 2008 1:55 AM PDT

Why care?
by Kees Bakker - 9/21/08 8:27 AM
In reply to: Stopping System Restore on External HD by Daviddude

Let system restore do the work the MS engineers designed it for. What's wrong with that?


^~~~~~~~~This posting is what I was talking about

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