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SSDs with Desktop and Mobile Devices

Feb 21, 2014 11:50AM PST

I just got a Solid State Drive (SSD) for my notebook. With that comes the usual warning: be careful how many times you read/write wear-out your SSD!

Thank you for the concern. But if this is true, then why don't I see the same concern for solid-state memory found in tablets and smartphones?

Is there a difference?

Why does it seem people are more worried about SSDs in desktop and laptops than the ones found in handheld devices?

I'd really like to know, because if having a SSD in my notebook is the same as having it in my tablet, then I believe I can sleep better... or can I?

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You can sleep
Feb 21, 2014 10:17PM PST

better if you store as few valuables on your SSD as you do on your mobiles! Would you?

The question you should be asking is, if SSDs are prone to wearout, what would happen to your mobile data if they are not backed up.

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Expect some usage
Feb 21, 2014 11:56PM PST

SSD for PCs are going to be really, really be used and tend to gander heavy amounts of data and I/O of data going to and for as the need arise is more than any mobile would do and size of data will be considerable as well. Overall, its like a known problem and the "TRIM command" google that and check it's all about. As for similar tasks in mobile devices, consider that size of data is greatly reduced and what gets written and rewritten is marginal compared to PC use and that is a large difference. Either use of the SSD would still require some backup, more so for PC use or realize the error of not doing of either usage.

You look at a SSD for a PC and then one for a mobile device, notice the electronics difference. The PC use of typical HD replacement is more robust and intended to help itself keep going vs. the SSD or typical flash memory though they use the same method of storage the PC SSD will provide some spreading out of data to areas of media to reduce frequent re-use, over and over again. This is the crux of flash memory, repeat use on same areas of media storage. ***NOTE*** A visible example is home carpeting. Notice, areas of constant use compared to other areas of the home. Which gets wore down sooner?

tada -----Willy Happy

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Thanks, but still...
Feb 22, 2014 1:55AM PST

Thanks for the answer, but before I've asked the question, I've already done extensive Googling and have not found much written on the topic.

The closest I've got was this:
http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/8794/tablets-and-ssd-degradation

Basically SSDs are "higher performance". What does that mean exactly??? Just because they run faster they wear faster? I guess I can understand that...

.. but if what y'all is saying is true -- that tablets see less activity on the storage, which I beg to disagree (we'll get to that in a bit), then I should be well safe using my SSD for things like storing email and website caches on.

See the whole reason I want to know (FOR SURE) is that I __WANT__ to be able to use my laptop (it's a macbook by the way... which may make a difference for the purpose of this discussion) the same way as I use my iPhone or iPad -- WITH IMPUNITY when browsing websites or checking my email everyday.

Because as it is, I've used my user account off the SSD and onto the original Toshiba spinning-platter hard drive which is now in the place where the optical drive used to be. Because of this, checking email and opening webpages isn't as fast as it was when I had everything running on the SSD. The computer still has to access and load this information from the slower HD.

If I can get more information on this -- perhaps I would feel more at ease to run my user account from the SSD and just keep large project files such as the ones I use for graphic design on the HD.

Going back to tablets taking less wear-n-tear for the activities they are used for. Perhaps you're right. Checking/Downloading/Reading email for example -- once it's downloaded, the system writes it to the storage and then just appends the file ... MAYBE? I'm wondering if Apple Mail (the default email client) does this as well in OS X Mavericks? It would be good to know for certain!

But how about web surfing? There's an activity that I would imagine requires constant read/writes to the drive. Everything is kept in a temporary file.

So now I'm thinking that perhaps it WOULD be OK to move my user account data back to the SSD, and just keep the live project files on the standard HD?

Does anyone employ the same setup? Or do you all keep your user accounts on the spinning platter drive?

OR... for the benefit of SSD access speeds, you have a second SSD for storage (oh THAT would be nice... Samsung does have a 750GB 840 EVO that matches the capacity of my Toshiba drive)?

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DYAC
Feb 22, 2014 2:05AM PST

I meant to say I've __MOVED__ my user account from the SSD onto the original Toshiba spinning-platter HD.

(DYAC!)

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I'd stop fretting but still backup what I can't lose.
Feb 22, 2014 2:13AM PST

Why?

http://ssd-life.com/eng/how.html writes:
" For example, Intel guarantees that the total of about 37 TB of data will be written to X25-M drives (20 GB per day for 5 years: "The drive will have a minimum of 5 years of useful life under typical client workloads with up to 20 GB host writes per day.")."

20 GB a day. I'm going back to work.
Bob

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Thanks!
Feb 22, 2014 3:14AM PST