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Speaking of cultures of corruption...

May 8, 2006 5:36AM PDT

the Abramoff scandal is heating up, as predicted...

Former Aide to Rep. Ney Pleads Guilty.

>> A former congressional chief of staff to Rep. Bob Ney (news, bio, voting record), R-Ohio, pleaded guilty Monday in the Jack Abramoff influence peddling scandal, admitting he participated in a conspiracy to corrupt Ney, his staff and other members of Congress with trips, free tickets and meals.

Neil Volz, 35, admitted that he engaged in the conspiracy for more than four years, both while he was Ney's chief of staff and after he left to go to work for Abramoff. <<

And over the weekend, e-mails from Tom DeLay's staffers surfaced indicating that they knew Abramoff, and not a non-profit, was paying for Congressional junkets to Scotland:

DeLay Office Knew Abramoff Arranged Trip.

>> Prosecutors have e-mails showing Rep.
Tom DeLay's office knew lobbyist Jack Abramoff had arranged the financing for the GOP leader's controversial European golfing trip in 2000 and was concerned "if someone starts asking questions."

House ethics rules bar lawmakers from accepting free trips from lobbyists. DeLay, R-Texas, reported to Congress that a Republican advocacy group had paid for the spring 2000 trip that DeLay, his wife and top aides took to Scotland and England.

The e-mails obtained by The Associated Press show DeLay's staff asked Abramoff ? not the advocacy group ? to account for the costs that had to be legally disclosed on congressional travel forms. DeLay's office was worried the group being cited as paying the costs might not even know about them, the e-mails state.

Abramoff's team sought to low-ball the cost estimates and DeLay's office ultimately reported to Congress a total that was a few thousand dollars lower than the one the lobbyist provided, the documents show. <<

This sounds like prima facie evidence of perjury or lying to Federal investigators, depending on the circumstances of existing answers/testimony the e-mails contradict.

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Hopefully all involved
May 8, 2006 6:49AM PDT

no matter the party, will be summarily thrown out of Congress. I'm guessing that if investigators do their job correctly and aren't pressured otherwise, a good portion of Congressmen will be losing their jobs.

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(NT) (NT) Never happen
May 8, 2006 6:56AM PDT
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I agree.
May 8, 2006 7:53AM PDT

There has been influence-peddling for ages, monies under the table, questionable expense filings, etc., but this high profile one, so far, appears to have invaded both sides of the aisle and made a bunch of people nervous.

Just because it's gone on for years, it doesn't make it right.

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I doubt a "good portion," DR
May 8, 2006 1:17PM PDT

I suspect it will particularly focus on those in particularly important positions of power (especially chairs, and some members, of key appropriations committees).

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To clarify, I said "hopefully"
May 8, 2006 1:42PM PDT

and that if the investigators were thorough, they'd find problems with a large portion of Congress. Realistically, I partially agree in that they will focus on the leadership... but I expect the investigation will stop after 1 or 2 victims.