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Speaker and Reciever Question, Help!

Jul 28, 2009 6:18PM PDT

Hi, I did a lot of research about receivers and speakers and ended up going with the Pioneer Elite VSX-21TXH receiver. I also did a lot of research on speakers and decided to go with the Kef 5005.2 speaker system. All I was wondering was if that receiver can do I good job supporting them. I am not really an "audiophile" but I really do appreciate great sound. Thanks!!!

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Review here.
Jul 29, 2009 3:52AM PDT
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Thanks
Jul 29, 2009 4:01AM PDT

Thanks, glad to know everything is OK.

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if you can afford a Signature 141 or V series 65"
Jul 29, 2009 7:35AM PDT

I have no idea why you'd want to skimp so much on audio. is this for a super tiny bedroom?

KEF package is nice, but something like is usually coupled to a modest display. it's not full on HT worthy IMO.

if you really like KEF, I might recommend at least the iQ5s (perhaps having better dispersion properties than the bigger iQ7s). This of course is a minimum IMO. What is nice about KEFs coincidental drivers is that allows a smaller compromise in horiz center speakers. See, the horiz MTM could be the worst speaker design made in the history of mankind. I use one too, but, the effect of lobing is created when two REDUNDANT drivers are playing the exact same material. once you get offaxis, they start creating random sets of cancellations and boosts.

So how does coincidental help? This lobing that occurs starts at a lower point (because with typical MTM, the xover point is usually pretty high).

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Had no idea
Jul 29, 2009 7:58AM PDT

First off like I said I am really not an audiophile. This sound system is for a normal size room. I ended up picking those because they were small and stylish and I didn't want to go spend $2000 on a sound system. From what I'm getting from you the center speaker gets off kilter and then mis-matches sound. So would the 3005SE's be better?

I like KEF and if I went with the iQ10s what bass would I go with? I would also want to go KEF with the bass, which do you recommend?

Thanks...

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Why must the subwoofer be KEF?
Jul 29, 2009 8:19AM PDT

What is your max size restraint with all three dimensions, and what is the budget for sub? Careful with the dimensions you pick. The smaller both responses are, the much more limited your choices are for quality product. For max performance in a smaller cabinet means sealed, but you give up a lot of output and efficiency, often meaning very high budget for something worthy.

if you don't care about audio, then why bother starting this thread?

If 2k is too much, what is the budget?

are you willing to build over time?

NO OFFENSE TO YOU, but I'm most likely stopping here. The questions you answer will most likely help others to pick up where I am leaving off.

good luck and congrats on the TV!

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One last thing to ask you if you have the time...
Jul 29, 2009 9:13AM PDT

Thanks for all the help, I just have one last thing to ask. The fact is audio MATTER A LOT TO ME. The size requirements are about 20" by 20" by 20". I want something small enough to not be bulky. My budget is $1400 and I don't want to build over time. The sub doesn't have to be Kef, if you know of a good affordable Sub I can match that with the iQ10's if you think they are good speakers. Sorry about this, if you can give me a good recommendation on the speakers and sub to match that would be awesome. Thanks for all the help.

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for a sub in your budget
Jul 29, 2009 10:36AM PDT

the best bang for buck, by far, is DIY.

otherwise, I would only look towards certain ID (internet direct) brands. Such as:

SVS
HSU
Outlaw
Epik

You have a large space, and trust me you need the biggest and baddest you can afford and fit. Actually make that at least two of them. Get one for now, and after you set it all up, the bug has bitten, and you can upgrade later on.

Unfortunate about your dimensions. Square is the absolute worst for acoustics. The fact that your height is also the exact same makes it truly the worst room dimensions. Hopefully your measurements are incorrect, and none of the three are indeed identical.


Just so you know, the ideal front soundstage is three identical speakers, on the same plane.

The vertical identical speaker means the true identical acoustic match.

It also means proper design for horiz dispersion in the case of multiple viewers.

the identical height means that all drivers on the same plane allow for the best panning effects possible.

however, if the horiz center is a must, then KEF makes a better design than most.

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I forgot about these two ads
Jul 29, 2009 10:47AM PDT