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SP2 EULA

I was reading the EULA (first timer to read one)
And I noticed that M$ shows that to connect to an XP desktop remotely you must have another license for XP.

Did I read that wrong? PCAnywhere and gotomypc.com
both will cause you to violate the EULA unless you pay M$ for another license. They both give you the fucntionality as if you were sitting at the PC.

It also states that XP Home users don't even have the rights to remote desktop.

I know it says that the primary user may access it remotely, but this doesn't allow for administrators, tech support, or anyone else.

Also, using the express install, I am up to the point of installing SP2, is it now "safe"? I have been watching forums that are showing the full downloaded version is causing approx. 15% of the comps it is installed on to have trouble or not boot at all.

Will a system restore point remove a bad SP2 install?
Or once SP2 is on, "it's on" and there is no going back?

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My guess is that it only applies to using Remote Desktop.

Either way, Microsoft isn't likely to go after individual users. Most of the stuff in the EULA is so they can sue any companies with deep pockets.

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Merl,

If you log onto your remote PC running XP with another PC also running XP then you already have separate licences for each PC?
So that shouldn't be in breach of the EULA.

BTW, I've tested GoToMyPC and installed it for a client who is very happy with it.

GoToMyPC is web-based using I.E. so it doesn't use the Remote Desktop feature of XP Pro.
Thus again it won't break the EULA.

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on SP2...

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I've used the full SP2 D/L to update three of my PCs and all seems fine.

Then I used slipstream to create an XP SP2 CD and tested it on my DELL Laptop using a clean install and that also went well.

But for corporate use it might be better to put off SP2 till you've researched if all your software/hardware are compatible.
I've read that even some of MS's own apps needs to be tweaked for SP2. This applies to Visual Studio.Net, Microsoft CRM 1.2 & SQL Server2000!

Check these links:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1636075,00.asp
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/article2/0,1995,1634711,00.asp

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Removing SP2...

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Using the full SP2 installation I found that in the System Restore Calender there was a restore point: "Installed Windows XP SP2" created on the date it was installed.
This was also listed in Add or Remove Programs.

Thus it appears that SP2 can be uninstalled using either of the above.

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Yes SP2...can be removed/uninstalled!

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On my test PC I just did an uninstall of SP2 from Add or Remove Programs using the Windows XP Service Pack 2 Removal Wizard.

When I activated the removal it pops up a warning that:
"When you remove Windows XP SP2 you might remove security updates that help protect your computer".

I click OK and it went through the following process:

* Inspecting Vurrent Configuration.
* Checking for necessary space.
* Stopping Services.
* Restoring Catalogs.
* Running Processes before uninstalling.
* Deleting files.
* Copying files.
* Updating Registry.
* Running Processes after uninstalling.
* Performing cleanup.
* Starting Services.

Then I receive the message:
"Service Pack 2 has been successfully removed. You must restart your computer."

On reboot SP1 was back on together will all other Critical Updates previously applied.

So SP2 can easily by uninstalled if you want to.

However I've decided to reinstall it!

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''Next'' question . .

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to be fended is users who ask what certain folders are they find after installing SP2 which are used to restore and whether they can be removed to save space.

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Bill,

Since HDD space is the least concern as current HDDs are huge, I would not recommend doing this as this would remove the option to uninstall SP2.

But if one wants to there is a hidden folder in the WINDOWS directory called "$NtServicePackUninstall$" which uses 353 MB disk space and can be deleted.

Following that the SP2 unistall can be remove from Add or Remove Programs listing.

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Why this is so. Linux RDESKTOP.

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Re: Why this is so. Linux RDESKTOP.

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So I see.
Use any remote desktop from any OS other than Windows XP Pro is a violation. Nice. It's their software, but I wonder if that would hold in court since the Win OS being accessed is in fact running on the legally licensed machine. A remote connection is no more than a remote mouse, keyboard and Monitor. Provided there are no users sitting at the desktop also using it concurrently.

Well, the EULA wasn't my biggest concern, I just thought it to be strange. Guess lawyers get paid for something.

I mainly wanted to know if I could uninstall SP2 and that was answered.
Thanks to all.

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I installed SP2 yesterday and immediately had problems with OE6, so much so that I ended up having to remove it. It removed without any problems, even after I installed another software package.

I decided to look my system over and reinstall the service pack. It is running right now, and OE6 runs fine. The problem was with a program called "B9" (benign) that is a subset of another program from "Firetrust" which works in conjunction with yet another program called "Mail Washer Pro," also from Firetrust. I have yet to put back on "B9" but feel that I am pretty well protected from any invasions on my system.

I use McAfee OnLine for my most current virus detector, and now see that SP2 utilizes yet another virus wall, and firewall that protect me even more. System is running just fine now, but you just need to set all the parameters for the "Internet" and "Firewall" in the control panel, and then you should not have a problem.

Anyone needing knowlege on what software will or will not work correctly or at all with SP2, can send me a request and I will test the software on my system and give you a report back.

Victor Chandler
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