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Somebody tell Molly that the US is not World!

by AaronDuck / May 16, 2006 8:54 AM PDT

As usual Molly shows her inability to realise that the world does not actually revolve around the USA - thank god or somebody would have patented breathing by now.
What I'm referring to is Molly's rant about how the US trade representative has declared allofmp3.com a pirate site - Who cares what the US trade representative thinks! Last I knew Russia was a sovereign country - I say block americans from accessing the site

Quotes from Show
Tom - ?The US doesn?t get to decide what?s in legal within Russia? ? Maybe a surprise to poor Molly. Tom ? ?The US is saying what you?re doing, it may be legal in Russia but it?s not ok for our people to access it?, Molly ? ?Well actually the US is just saying this is a notorious pirate site market place period? ? So, does the US care when the UN declares that holding prisoners without trial on a island for years is illegal? There are many other examples of the US ignoring international law.
When the US starts taking heed of international law then maybe just maybe you can expect the rest of the world to take you seriously. Oh no hang we do have to take you seriously otherwise we?ll be invaded ? doh!

Colin

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Um...
by glennth999 / May 16, 2006 9:33 AM PDT

So if a company in the US were to take content from a UK or Canadian act and sell it online for cheap, and paid a small licensing fee to the US government but not a dime to the artists themselves, that's fine? Come on man, this is piracy by anyone's definition.

Besides which, what Molly's saying is that it is illegal for people within the US to access that service, even if it's legal in Russia. And that's absolutely true, just as it's illegal for most people in the US to access online gambling sites or child porn sites based overseas in countries where that kind of thing may be legal. She's not being US-centric, she's stating a fact.

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actually,
by jemsbarr / May 16, 2006 12:30 PM PDT
In reply to: Um...

I think she is being a bit US-centric, understandably so. She is, after all, American! Oh, and we all listen to a US-based podcast. My take - if you want the Russian opinion, listen to a Russian-based podcast. Oh yeah, there aren't any.

I think regardless of any applicable laws, Allofmp3 is seriously ripping off American, Canadian, British, Australian, etc artists, and we should all be a bit pissed at them from a moral standpoint. Who cares if they are following Russian law and are smart enough to find a convenient loophole (that hasn't been plugged because that would stop the flow of bribe money).

As the astute Huey Lewis once said, "sometimes bad is bad."

:-P

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Here we go...
by bozeman / May 16, 2006 10:53 PM PDT
In reply to: actually,

Yes, the USA is only one country in the world, I know that, I'm in Canada.

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On a side note, did anyone take that quiz National Geographic had? Mentioned on my Very Spatial podcast.
"Young Americans Geographically Illiterate, Survey Suggests"

try it yourself, interested in what people from other countries (besides the US and Canada) are getting.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/05/0502_060502_geography.html

http://www9.nationalgeographic.com/roper2006/question_01.html

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But seriously, there are international laws in place, that should take care of this kind of thing, and if there is a hole, it should be plugged up. Having one country declare that another is hosting a pirate site doesn't do it. Having MANY countries say it, then I start to listen and maybe the lawmakers will as well.

Thrusting one country's rights on another is not correct, look at China. Sorry to say, you may not agree with their laws, but when in China, you do what they say right? When in the US, you listen to US laws. Same thing here in Canada, I follow the laws of the land.

If Russia found a loophole in the laws, well good for them, now the rest of us are angry, but seriously, it's not their fault, it's ours, we all made the law.

It's like my old D&D and views on children. Show them three ways how to get out of a room they are locked in, and they will find a forth, just because. Russians did it, don't blame them for doing what humans do.

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what bothers me
by vidyman / May 17, 2006 1:34 AM PDT

is that because I'm in America I'm more likely to be Sued by the RIAA for sharing music, then some guy in Russia who's selling it. Now mind you, What the Russians are doing is nothing compared to what the Chinese are doing to the DVD market. But instead of closing up the holes to international piracy the big studios are restricting what I can do with what I buy. (I just want to make a DVD of Battlestar Galactica that I bought off of iTunes so I can view it on my living room TV), or their suing Housewives in Ohio who don?t even own computers. Yes the Russians should shut down allofmp3.com, but not because the US government tells them too, but because internationally it?s the right thing to do. Now have you every tried to buy something off an iTunes store that?s not in your country? I have and it won?t let you. Maybe in the interest of international law Apple can make that technology accessible to allofmp3.com.

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Not a great feat
by Dirty Pirate / May 17, 2006 2:34 PM PDT
In reply to: what bothers me

Apple just ties your credit card number to what you can purchase. So all they have to do is set up their database to recognize this and it is done.

I still use my Canadian credit card on ITunes here is Ireland, and my address listed on ITunes is my Ireland address. So I don't think it would be all that hard.

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