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Some Questions About RAM

I got 8gb RAM memory and in CPU-Z it says DRAM Frequency is 1200MHz. NB Frequency is 3600MHz. What's DRAM and what's NB??

I want to upgrade my RAM by either 4gb or 8gb. I don't know how much MHz should new RAM have to work the best as it can (I know better is working on MHz of lower). In shop I bought in DDR4 section (which I have) are 2133MHz, 2400MHz and 2666MHz RAMs. CPU-z is obviously doing something wrong with that MHz stuff. How can I find real MHz of my RAM without opening PC and taking RAM out of my PC (I don't want to break anything). Store which I bought PC in doesn't have that PC anymore in collection and don't know what is the name of RAM.

I want to know if I can buy any DDR4 RAM with equal or higher MHz (which would be stupid if it would downclock). Do they must have same manufacturer?

Other store has 2x4gb and 2x8gb RAM. I can't buy 2x version of RAM beacuse I don't have enough money (even though it's sale). Should I buy 1x4gb/8gb or w8 for 2x4gb/8gb?

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NB=north bridge

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This is my PC link! Sorry

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What you have in the machine now is one stick of kingston ddr4@2400 8GB.
If you can match that stick exactly .....make and model.....then you might be able to add another stick and bring your ram to 16GB.

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That speccy shows your mobo temp is waaaay too hot.
Might be time to do some cleaning and thermal paste work.

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I cleaned my PC few days ago (myb week). I removed all dust (I could) by hands and with hair drier. I don't know anything about that cooling stuff.

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Look in your bios for a temp monitor.
See what it shows for the mobo temps.

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It says 23 degrees Silly (celsius)

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That's good

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Speccy is just reading it wrong.

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CPU-z is correct.

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The 1200MHz is the clock rate going to the DRAM. The Data Rate is Double that. DDR = Double Data Rate. This trips up so many but the RAM looks to be DDR 2400 (which is clocked at 1200MHz.)

No tech I know will advise you to mix sticks. Not that it doesn't work, it's when it doesn't it's hard to pinpoint that it was the mixed sticks. So all good techs stick with the answer "use same make, model, size" when adding RAM.

If you mix you should not find anyone say "it will work fine." Everyone that has been around a while says "you can try it."

Now you know.

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PS. If I wanted this machine to work its best.

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I'd get my boot drive to be SSD. Most of your delays are in your HDD, not the 8GB RAM.

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One more question

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So what should I do now?

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Your choice.

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Mine would be to move to a nice 240GB or more boot SSD. The gain from that could be more than more RAM. 8GB is fine for most of us and this is not a gaming PC but does have a nice 1050 Ti (my go to card.)

The most complaints I get are about the time to boot, launch a browser or game which are all abotu the old technology HDD. I snapped up a few 1TB SSDs on sale for 99 bucks so shop the 500GB ones for good prices.

Example OLD PC in a link to follow dropped the boot time in half from over a minute to about half at 30ish seconds at https://www.cnet.com/forums/post/3ef4c495-10ec-4348-8dc1-1322367b0f7f/

That started at 4GB RAM and you can see at one step I upped RAM from 4 to 8GB and the results didn't budge. From 8 to 16 won't move the needle much. You could get a gain from moving from single channel to dual channel but that's all over the map where in some cases you get zero percent gain and the next 10 to 20% gain. You have 8 so I'd decide based on what the issue is. If you are like most, the move to SSD is next.

Post was last edited on February 11, 2019 11:15 AM PST

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How should I move to SSD? Boot menu? Msconfig?

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I would.

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But when I changed over I cloned the old HDD to SSD, put the cloned SSD on the connection where the old HDD was and never considered or saw a Boot menu or Msconfig!

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I don't understand.

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I don't either.

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When I cloned the drive I never saw a boot menu or Msconfig. Why did you ask about those?

"How to clone a drive" is a well done subject. I don't think I can add more to what's been written on the subject except, I didn't see a boot menu or Msconfig along the way and I've done these clone jobs thousands of times.

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I asked for msconfig and boot menu beacuse it's connected with boot. I've never heard of that. I don't want to do it beacuse I don't know anything about it and don't want to mess with my PC.

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Replacing the hard disk with a SSD is a hardware change. There's no need to do anything inside the BIOS or in msconfig. In fact, there's nothing you can do in msconfig for this change.

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So that is just replacing places of SSD and HDD?

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Not only places, but contents also. Unless, of course, both the SSD and the HDD are bootable and have Windows installed on them. But that's a somewhat strange situation.

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I worry here.

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Remember I think folk research such things. But here's the short version of a clone job.

1. The new SSD is plugged in.
2. The clone software is run and the old drive copied to the new drive.
3. The machine is shut down and the old HDD is unplugged and set aside.
4. The new SSD is plugged in and the machine is booted up.

It's not uncommon for Windows to reboot and do some repair here. But that's it. No mention of msconfig or a boot menu along the way unless for step 2 where I use the BIOS F9 key (most machines) to boot the clone software.

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So SSD is better then HDD? I have to copy all from HDD to SSD and if I do all as I have to it will be much faster? I have HDD. Where should I plug in SSD drive when I unplug HDD?? I have Z3 Plus Zalman box.

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I see I skipped a few words.

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First, SSD versus HDD comparisons are all over the web so I'll skip that.

As to where the SSD drive plugs into, it replaces your HDD so after the clone job I power down, remove the old HDD and set aside for now and plug the new SSD into where the HDD was.

Remember I think folk use the web for information about this so I may not cover it all.

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It's faster and uses less electricity. If you want to call that better, I won't disagree.

For the deployment you have 2 options:
1. A relatively small (256 GB preferably) SSD for Windows, user profiles and programs, and next to it a HDD, that's large enough for all your data.
2. A SSD that's large enough for everything, and no HDD at all.

An important factor to decide is how much data you plan to store during the estimated lifetime of your PC. If that's a lot (say, 1 GB or more), option 1 is the best. If it's less than a few 100 GB, option 1 with a 500 GB SSD is nice.

What exactly you have to do depends on which of the 2 options you choose, and how big your current HDD is.

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I'll have to search on web for more informations about that and ask store I bought PC in about that.

Do you maybe know what is in Bios Menu "Boot Option Priorities"? There are 3 numbers: Boot 1# Boot 2# and Boot 3#. There's "Win Boot Manages (SATA...)" under #1 and SATA... under 2# and 3#.

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While you can research that.

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I can share it has NEVER mattered when changing the boot drive from HDD to SSD.

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