Thank you for being a valued part of the CNET community. As of December 1, 2020, the forums are in read-only format. In early 2021, CNET Forums will no longer be available. We are grateful for the participation and advice you have provided to one another over the years.

Thanks,

CNET Support

General discussion

Social Consciousness Booboo

Feb 10, 2009 6:48PM PST

Hi all.

Just putting this out there, tell me if you think I'm nuts with such an idea, but maybe the yogis are right (and I don't mean the Bear).

Social networks are obviously moving very quickly towarda singularity where everyone knows what everyone is doing, where and when with realtime automatic updates. Instead of thinking that maybe this is all controlled by some shady Illuminati-esque group, tightening their orwellian grip on the population, maybe we should think more in terms of the possibilty that we were all once all-knowing souls and part of a Global Consciousness and this is just us trying to get back to when we were most content.

...ok.. so maybe the shady parallel government idea is more plausible after all.

Discussion is locked

- Collapse -
The singular
Feb 12, 2009 12:09AM PST

Oh I love this topic. I'm actually writing a novel about the future of the collective conscious / direct democracy clash with the communistic results of creating a leadership of individuals to monitor the collective. It's not as boring as it sounds. Swear.

Let me ask, if we are a singular conscience, have we found God? Or just enough of a god for humanity to falsely follow its own religion. The material that most humans I meet will contribute to the singularity is crap, and as they say when programming applications, "crap in / crap out."

We are such a flawed group of minds, that I find it impossible to create a perfect being from the lot of us. Which leaves me with a whole lot of writing material!

- Collapse -
We are all soup.
Feb 12, 2009 10:43AM PST

I really don't know much about this subject. I tend to speculate on random snippits of information I pick up in daily life, books, movies etc. The human being and the universe we've created for ourselves has many anomalies and no one idea answers every question. I don't know if I'm getting closer or further away from our true makeup, but it's fun coming up with theories. OK - disclaimer over!

From what I gather so far about Eastern philosoplies on the ONE consciousness, maybe with a little christian teaching, a few movies and quantum physics chucked in for good measure is that WE ARE GOD. God as a bloke with a white beard sitting on a cloud (as depicted by that charlto heston movie and Monty Python) is probably as real as Coca Cola's depiction of St. Nicholas as a bloke with a white beard and a red suit.

On one hand we got some people talking about all of us as part of a homogenious soup of all knowing spirit, and you have physicists (and logic) telling us that we are all made of energy (well considering the distance between the electron and nucleus in an atom - there's not much else!) it all gets quite perplexing.

Forgive me if this is getting too Matrixy. Computer/console games are getting quite realistic, wouldn't you agree? (although they got a little bit to go yet). Games/simulation programmers are improving on the AI and the physics all the time. (I stil can't believe Half Life 2 is 5 years old). On top of all that, you've got the social networking aspect of all this - i.e. the real time auto-updating of when? where?, how?, who? and why?... all you need is a bit of virtual reality and an upgrade in human/computer interfacing and bobs yer uncle.

Who's to say this is not the first time we've done this?

To quote some hippie bloke in the Bible "The kingdom of God is everywhere".

- Collapse -
Humantiscide
Feb 12, 2009 8:41PM PST

AI, once created, isn't artificial any more. Irony.
I remember reading a O.S. Card. Novel, one of the Ender series, that had a rouge piece of software that turned into a network born conscience that befriended the main characters.

What if such a conscience was spawned from an action game super hero / protagonist from half life 2.

You computer speakers one day say, "Hi Steve, It's Gordon. Has it been 5 years?"

Hell, let's make it a given in this post that intelligence will be created out of a collective conscience.
Who or where will it go to for instruction?
What code will define it's set of defined ethics, or is it a big bang, and suddenly, using collected data, the exact paramiters of our existing world are transported and created in a universe of it's own. Since software wouldn't be limited to the flaws of humanity, life expectancy, sleep, knowledge exchange, it alone might be able to discover the secrets of time/space, and then it would be to busy for humanity to even try to explain it to us. It would simply go off and become a God of its own.

Maybe we've already created an infinite number of gods, and to those gods, the building blocks of their existence is humanity. Such as cells are to humans. We don't fully understand how they work, but we comprehend their existence and know they built the world around us.

BTW: I am a bot.

- Collapse -
The Reality Game
Feb 13, 2009 7:46AM PST

I started a blog a few months ago. I've added a few posts and the rest is just a collection of titles. I add the titles when I think of them and fill in the content when I have time, and as you can see, I've not had that much time recently. There's a few of my ideas over there about a possibility that we are in a simulation, but I have to say that they are very raw and it wasn't really meant for public consumption, but what the hell.

http://pixelexistence.blogspot.com/2008_07_01_archive.html

Steve.