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... so that they may NOT have died in vain!!!

But would they have wanted ...

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(yes. a stand alone post.)


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Re: ... so that they may NOT have died in vain!!!

In reply to: ... so that they may NOT have died in vain!!!

If you are talking about the children and others who died in Russia.........

Would they have wanted terrorists in their country? Would they have wanted leaders in the world who took/take that threat more seriously than they have?

TONI

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Good questions.

In reply to: Re: ... so that they may NOT have died in vain!!!

Let us pompos on it for our own ends, shall we?


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Re: Good questions.

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Since 'pompos' isn't a word, I'm going to assume that you are requesting that your open ended post for us to complete be restricted to what????

TONI

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Re: Good questions.

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Sorry, Toni.

Nasty tone on my part. I just wanted to put up a kind'a food for thought thing. I, myself, feel that the whole "... lest they died in vain..." thing has historically been the number one abused argument of all time. It's quite possible that "they" just wanted it to be over and done with quickly so the suffering would stop. And yet their sacrifices have been used to prolong all wars in all times.

I didn't mean to put restrictions on anybody's responses.


pompos: as in pomposity.


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I guess it's

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about as close as you can get to blaming Bush for what happened in Russia.
Pathetic

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(NT) (NT) Nothing to do with Russia. A stand-alone to consider.

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It's more likely that they, like most of us, wanted to live

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the life that God created us to live.

For those who died in pursuit of a noble goal, like the defeat of the nazis or japanese, it is fairly simple to uderstand what is meant by not dying in vain.

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No doubt.

In reply to: It's more likely that they, like most of us, wanted to live

I ain't no mind reader but I would think the dead would prefer we fight for the reasons that THEY fought for, instead of mainly to justify their deaths. I mean that way just goes round and round for both sides and never ends. I can't believe they would want THAT. Don't you suppose that the bloody terrorists use this very same 'not died in vain' argument to keep the crap going on their side? It's probably their MAIN, persuasion.

It just kind'a made me sick to hear some of the Republican speakers trying to use it against Kerry. Especially the ones that posed it as their strongest point, like they were the only ones who cared. Maybe it was just a kind of crescendo type thing and my tin-ear heard it that way, but I don't think so.

"in pursuit of a noble goal" . There you go. THAT's the reason to fight.


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Perhaps a quote from a Republican speaker would

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help explain your point. The terrorists have their own reasons. What we say, or don't say, will probably not affect their thinking unless we are showing them a new technique or strategy to gain their objectives.

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