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Sir Ignatius Valentine Chirol

Sir Ignatius Valentine Chirol (28 May 1852 ? 22 October 1929) was a journalist, prolific author, historian and British diplomat. He was a passionate imperialist and believed that Imperial Germany and Muslim unrest were the biggest threats to the British Empire...

His thinking was a bit ahead of his time.
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also hinted at by Kipling

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Rudyard Kipling (1865?1936)


OH, East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet,
Till Earth and Sky stand presently at God?s great Judgment Seat;
But there is neither East nor West, Border, nor Breed, nor Birth,
When two strong men stand face to face, tho? they come from the ends of the earth!


,.,

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Panic about Muslim threat goes back to

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early days of the religion, as soon as it became political outside Arabia. People on the east of Europe wanted a Great Christian Hope. The nominal response was the Crusades, results of which are laid out in any history book.

The historian and biographer Emil Ludwig wrote a The Nile, a "biography" of that river. Somewhere in it he speaks very reasonably about the Muslim religion of his time (ca. 1920). IMO if his European readers had learned from him or others like him, there would have been much less animosity between these two major spheres of the world. They did not, results of which are laid out in any history book.

BTW Kipling was probably Imperialism's most successful flack, and an irritant to his more moderate peers even in his own lifetime. Great writer, though.

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(NT) BTW, thanks for the link. Never heard of the guy.

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(NT) Same here. Thanks!

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