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Question

Since DJT/Republicans believe

Feb 2, 2020 1:37PM PST

it's OK to use taxpayers money(as a lever/quid pro quo) to help facilitate his own reelection is in the public interest

What's HIS next step?

Standing at election places, using his own money and paying people to vote for him?

HE does consider it in the "public interest"

What could be nefarious about that?

Just imagine what would happen IF Mike Bloomberg tried that?

Paying people to vote for him, in the "public interest" of course.

Word is, Mike has way more money than Donnie does.

Doesn't that sound like bribery?...One of the charges mentioned in Impeachment?

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BO himself didn't personally go
Feb 3, 2020 7:20AM PST

he sent tax payer money to campaign IN Israel against Bibi AND sent a number of his own administration to go there to influence/interfere in that election by actively campaigning against Bibi. BO knew Bibi was a threat to that Iran deal and wanted him out. One country (ours) trying to influence an election for his own political gain.....abuse of power for personal interests?

As for the 'indictment'......you guys just had your arses handed to you trying the same tactic to be rid of somebody you don't like politically....so much for THAT argument. Bibi has been accused of much for the last 8 years and beat it all....sound familiar?

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RE:Bibi has been accused of much for the last 8 years
Feb 3, 2020 7:47AM PST
Bibi has been accused of much for the last 8 years and beat it all..

beat it all?...Already? They don't fool around over there do they?

Israel's Netanyahu indicted in corruption cases, hours before Mideast peace plan announced

Updated 7:55 AM ET, Tue January 28, 2020

Jerusalem (CNN)Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was formally indicted on corruption charges Tuesday, just hours before he was set to meet President Donald Trump for the unveiling of the US administration's long-anticipated Middle East plan.

Netanyahu has been charged with bribery and fraud and breach of trust in three separate corruption cases. Attorney General Avichai Mandelblit submitted the indictment in Jerusalem District Court on Tuesday shortly after Netanyahu withdrew his request for parliamentary immunity, a request he was almost certain to lose.


It's odd they didn't provide an outcome for the corruption charges in the story...perhaps YOU could provide a link to YOUR sources showing HE "beat it all".
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RE:abuse of power for personal interests?
Feb 3, 2020 6:30PM PST
BO knew Bibi was a threat to that Iran deal and wanted him out. One country (ours) trying to influence an election for his own political gain.....abuse of power for personal interests?

AND you believe that Obama would gain something personally by having Iran pressured by Israel to sign nuclear deal?

own political gain? Personal interest?

Ya' think Obama would have been eligible to serve a THIRD TERM?

HE could do that?

POTUS for 12 years?

Does this look like someone that wants to be POTUS for another term?

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When you actually figure out what
Feb 4, 2020 7:19AM PST

you are trying to argue about, let me know.....this doesn't EVEN make sense... "by having Iran pressured by Israel to sign nuclear deal?" WHEN do YOU think IRAN has ever felt pressured by ISRAEL into doing something?

The PERSONAL gain BO wanted was the LEGACY of having an Iran deal, which is why he backed off and made deals with Russia to NOT interfere in any of it and allowed Russia afterward to annex Crimea from an ALLY and refused to send missile defense systems to Ukraine to defend themselves. BO appeased Russia to get HIS deal in place for PERSONAL gain.

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RE:WHEN do YOU think IRAN has ever felt pressured by ISRAEL
Feb 4, 2020 7:59AM PST

by ISRAEL "on it's own"?


NEVER?


Ever hear of strength in numbers, we're all in this together, you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours?

PS. You're Welcome

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(NT) Bibi. representing
Feb 5, 2020 4:48AM PST
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Bibi, representing ISRAEL
Feb 5, 2020 4:50AM PST

tried to pressure BO, NOT IRAN, into NOT going into a deal with Iran, even to the point of coming to the well of the HOUSE AND at the UN to warn everyone against it.

Again, your sentence makes no sense when you say Israel pressured Iran INTO the deal.

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RE:Again, your sentence makes no sense when you say Israel p
Feb 5, 2020 5:53AM PST
Again, your sentence makes no sense when you say Israel pressured Iran INTO the deal.

I did not say Israel pressured Iran INTO any deal....

A couple posts ago in this thread YOU queried

WHEN do YOU think IRAN has ever felt pressured by ISRAEL into doing something?


I said (and showed) that Israel bombed Iran...Whether the "bombing" pressured Iran to do something...

Would YOU feel "pressured" IF/WHEN someone started bombing you?

Even if in a bunker where YOUR injuries would NOT be counted as YOU being a "casualty"?

This is a dig at Trump not counting wounded Americans as "casualties".

Did Iran bombing those bases in Iraq and cause Americans to hide in bunkers "pressure" DJT to pretend that there were NO "casualties"?

Ask DJT?...HE has been strangely silent on THAT subject.

IF DJT retaliated.....Did HE retaliate because HE was "pressured"?

I say YES!

I haven't seen anything claiming HE did retaliate. HE doesn't even want to bring the subject up.

What say you?

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YOUR post 2-3/20 at 6:30PM
Feb 8, 2020 12:06PM PST

This is YOUR quote: AND you believe that Obama would gain something personally by having Iran pressured by Israel to sign nuclear deal?

Your argument NOW is that Iran felt pressured because Israel bombed them? Has SYRIA felt pressured by Israel because they've been bombed by Israel? Come up with something that at least supports SOME or even a LITTLE bit of your garbage statements and stop trying to wiggle your way into a spin that anybody with a brain can see through at this point.

The whole rest of your post is babble as usual.

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RE:This is YOUR quote: AND you believe that Obama would gain
Feb 8, 2020 12:41PM PST

This is YOUR quote: AND you believe that Obama would gain something personally by having Iran pressured by Israel to sign nuclear deal?

NO, it was YOU "QUOTING" MY "QUESTION"

MY QUESTION was derived from YOUR post where YOU speculated/questioned.

BO knew Bibi was a threat to that Iran deal and wanted him out. One country (ours) trying to influence an election for his own political gain.....abuse of power for personal interests?


RE:The whole rest of your post is babble as usual.

You put babble in then complain when you get babble back?

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How exactly was my post
Feb 9, 2020 6:28AM PST

babble when I said BO interfered with OUR tax payer money AND some in his administration to go over to another country and try to stop Bibi from being reelected? (Which you've never denied, BTW, but concluded that Trump tried to interfere in the 2020 election via Ukraine....and he was acquitted of that charge).

Yes, you dimwit....I quoted YOU saying Israel pressured Iran INTO a deal with BO. I only asked how you came to that conclusion when just the opposite was true?

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RE:Yes, you dimwit.
Feb 9, 2020 10:46AM PST

YES?.....dimwit?

Are YOU agreeing with someone YOU consider a dimwit?

Devil

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Speaking of taxpayer money, playing the grandee
Feb 3, 2020 2:26PM PST

and such, how.much did the WH Xmas Tree and photo op set us back?
"Congress shall not mix church and state."
When I'm dictator of the world ...

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Are you freaking kidding me?
Feb 4, 2020 7:22AM PST

EVERY President has had a WH Christmas (not Xmas, thank you very much) tree and photo op....and it's NOT mixing Church and State, but only YOU would think so, I guess. I also guess you don't remember BO's tree with the close up of a picture of Che hanging on it...…...

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I'd like to see the pics from Washington's
Feb 4, 2020 11:36AM PST

photo opp, if you have them.

We used to tease my Mom about Xmas, because the X represents the Greek chi, the first letter of Christ. She wasn't having any. 'It's CHRISTMAS.'

Did you know that the Christmas festivities have not a single element in common with the biblical birth? Of course its proponents don't like that- it is religious to them. 'Jesus is the reason for the season.' 'Remember whose birthday it is.' When taxpayer money pays for the ubiquitous displays, that's mixing.

Che on a Xmas tree? Neat. Some years ago a department store in Japan wanted to boost its take in the "western" holiday season. They must have let the owner's idiot son-in-law arrange things. Among other displays- a crucified Santa Claus.

Happy Kwanzaa.

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Speaking of Christmas, Iran and Israel
Feb 4, 2020 11:14AM PST
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(NT) At least Iran is in the correct part of the world.
Feb 4, 2020 11:38AM PST
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Re
Feb 13, 2020 11:57AM PST

No, it's unethical but you can do it.