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Question

Since DJT/Republicans believe

Feb 2, 2020 1:37PM PST

it's OK to use taxpayers money(as a lever/quid pro quo) to help facilitate his own reelection is in the public interest

What's HIS next step?

Standing at election places, using his own money and paying people to vote for him?

HE does consider it in the "public interest"

What could be nefarious about that?

Just imagine what would happen IF Mike Bloomberg tried that?

Paying people to vote for him, in the "public interest" of course.

Word is, Mike has way more money than Donnie does.

Doesn't that sound like bribery?...One of the charges mentioned in Impeachment?

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Answer
Obviously
Feb 2, 2020 3:46PM PST

YOU believe that Trump tried to get Ukraine to 'interfere' in the election by investigating an ADMITTED corrupt politician.....no big surprise there.

BUT were you EVER outraged that BO used taxpayer money AND part of his administration to go over to Israel to interfere with THAT election because he didn't want Bibi to win?.....of course not.

Hypocrite.....

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RE:an ADMITTED corrupt politician.
Feb 2, 2020 6:20PM PST

Most politicians won't ADMIT to anything, let alone doing something corrupt.

They have been known to brag, boast and claim...But NOT ADMIT, because ADMITTING is associated with CONFESSING.

Do you have a name for this ADMITTED corrupt politician?

Could you please post the individual's name here? AND tell everyone what CORRUPTION exactly they ADMITTED to?

Thank you in advance.

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Quid Pro Quo JOE BIDEN
Feb 3, 2020 7:14AM PST

THREATENED aid to Ukraine and got what HE wanted,,,and ADMITTED/BRAGGED about it on national TV. AND implicated BO in that threat at the same time when Biden's authority to make the threat was questioned by telling them to call the President.

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RE:when Biden's authority to make the threat was questioned
Feb 3, 2020 7:55AM PST
when Biden's authority to make the threat was questioned by telling them to call the President.

And did they call the President?

What did THEY say HE(Obama) said?

THEY didn't say? Because THEY didn't ASK/LIKE THE ANSWER?

This is where you provide a link showing HOW Obama responded to THEIR request.
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THEY didn't have to call BO
Feb 3, 2020 11:41AM PST

Biden made it very clear that the President gave the authorization to Biden to make the threat....or haven't you actually SEEN that interview tape? When Biden told them they had six hours to fire the guy or no money, they KNEW. Keep trying to spin it, JP....

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RE:They didn't have to call Obama.
Feb 3, 2020 12:50PM PST

BUT they could have. Joe wouldn't give them a dime for the call?

I asked
1. And did they call the President? And the answer is: NO

2. What did THEY say HE(Obama) said? And the answer is: Nothing, because they didn't call.

3. THEY didn't say? Because THEY didn't ASK/LIKE THE ANSWER? And the answer is: Same as above THEY didn't call.

RE: or haven't you actually SEEN that interview tape?

Was this "interview tape" BEFORE or AFTER the event?

I'm going with AFTER the event happened BECAUSE Joe says I TOLD somebody/SAID something,

TOLD/SAID...both past tense.

Have YOU thought about that?

I believe DURING an event more than I believe the other 2 options.

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It was after and
Feb 4, 2020 7:13AM PST

he was bragging about what a 'tough' guy he was towards Ukraine and his blackmail/quid pro quo....you give me what the President of the USA has authorized ME to demand or YOU get nothing from us. The fact that he got what he demanded and the money was given to Ukraine proves that what was threatened DURING worked.....

Have YOU thought about that? Or are you too busy scrambling to try to protect Biden from an obvious and proven strong armed extortion of another country?

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RE:YOU get nothing from us.
Feb 4, 2020 7:50AM PST
nothing from us.


IN THE FUTURE. NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!!

NOT something that was approved by both parties, already funded and ready to go.....

DJT withheld money that was approved by BOTH PARTIES. Already investigated AND approved by security(whoever they are).

THAT is the rub...One scenario has already jumped through all the hoops and the money was approved.

You want to compare Apples to Peaches.
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apples to apples, jp
Feb 5, 2020 4:43AM PST
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RE:do your homework for a change
Feb 5, 2020 5:26AM PST

AND I'm the hypocrite AND YOU'RE NOT?

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You're just mad
Feb 5, 2020 3:07PM PST

that I was able to prove your stupid statement as WRONG....

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RE: stupid statement
Feb 5, 2020 5:25PM PST

Let's review...

How did we get here from there?

You are the one that claimed someone was an ADMITTED corrupt politician

And I said/asked

Do you have a name for this ADMITTED corrupt politician?

Could you please post the individual's name here? AND tell everyone what CORRUPTION exactly they ADMITTED to?


Then you said it was Biden.....BUT you NEVER provided proof that HE ADMITTED to being CORRUPT.



HE SAID WHAT HE SAID/DID>>>>BUT HE didn't say he was ADMITTING HE was "corrupt"..


YOU and other Trumpets/Trumpettes said HE ADMITTED HE WAS CORRUPT.

NO...HE Said what HE said and did....the word corruption didn't come out of HIS cakehole during the interview.

Trump Twists Facts on Biden and Ukraine

Michael McFaul, a former U.S. ambassador to Russia under President Barack Obama, on Sept. 20 tweeted that the “Obama administration policy (not just ‘Biden policy&rsquoWink to push for this Ukrainian general prosecutor to go” was “a shared view in many capitals, multilateral lending institutions, and pro-democratic Ukrainian civil society.”

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Oh good grief....
Feb 6, 2020 4:01AM PST

IF we go with YOUR argument that he never used the word corrupt in his admission of guilt of threats/bribery/extortion (all of which are impeachable offenses) and that he had the authorization to do it from the President of the USA (which is ALSO an impeachable offense against BO) on national tv, then you ALSO have to go with TRUMP'S statement that HE never used the words 'you don't get your money unless you do an investigation into Burisma, Biden's son, and the 2016 election' (for which he was ACQUITTED OF FOR LIFE).

You can't have it both ways, JP...….

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RE:(for which he was ACQUITTED OF FOR LIFE)
Feb 6, 2020 4:55AM PST

Not in the eyes of Mitt Romney...one of the few Republicans with a backbone AND a conscience.

AND he is IMPEACHED FOR LIFE.

RE: threats/bribery/extortion (all of which are impeachable offenses)

YOU would acquit Trump...HIS personal lawyer isn't as confident.

Presidential lawyer Rudy Giuliani said Monday he can’t be “100%” certain that Donald Trump did not threaten to withhold foreign aid when Trump reportedly urged Ukraine’s president to investigate the son of 2020 Democratic front runner Joe Biden.

Giuliani said in a Fox Business interview Monday that it was a “false story” to suggest that Trump had used foreign aid as leverage in a July phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky.But “I can’t tell you if it’s 100%” false, he added.

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RE:HE never used the words 'you don't get your money unless
Feb 6, 2020 12:54PM PST

HE never used the words 'you don't get your money unless you do an investigation into Burisma,

HE did use the words, I'd like you to do us a favor , though

us?...what's up with that? WHO us? WHO is HE speaking for? Certainly NOT the Democrats. And NOT the Mormons. THAT leaves the Republican Party.

"Us" wants a favor? Trump trying to be "Royalty"?

The Royal family are claimed to have used the term "WE are not amused".


though
/T͟Hō/
m"
adverb
however (indicating that a factor qualifies or imposes restrictions on what was said previously)

We'll give you the money but we'd like a favor though


qualifies what was said previously.....Seems pretty clear....unless AND though

Trump claims he asked Ukraine to do US a 'favor,' not him


President Trump late Wednesday claimed that he was urging Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to help the United States when he asked if the foreign leader could "do us a favor" on a July 25 phone call

He added in a separate tweet that he "went on to say that I would like to have the Attorney General (of the United States) call you or your people. This, based on what I have seen, is their big point — and it is no point at all (except for a big win for me!)."

us? me?

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First you have to get the actual
Feb 8, 2020 11:52AM PST

wording correct, JP. He didn't say "We'll give you the money but we'd like a favor though". As long as you do as Schiff did and put words into Trump's mouth that were never uttered, you will continue to be wrong.

The transcript itself shows that Zelensky stated that 'we are ready to buy MORE javelins' (indicating that he already had some that previously given aid purchased), and THEN Trump said "we'd like you to do US a favor though" followed immediately by "our COUNTRY has been through a lot" (the actual meaning of "US"). How can you possibly say that wasn't the point, when even his tweet along with the transcript says otherwise? Or are you having a hard time believing what's right in front of you (YOUR lyin' eyes syndrome)?

In any event, you lose and Trump wins AGAIN....including a new court decision blocking the emoluments crap House Dems tried to pull. Makes you wonder though...will Dems force Bloomberg to sign off on all of HIS investments if he gets the nod? Wil Bernie have to give up two of his houses since they are probably rented out and bringing in income? How about any other candidates on the stage that have investments/foundations/companies? Biden's son's financial records have been okayed by the Treasury Dept and handed over already to the Senate Committee investigating him.

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RE:First you have to get the actual wording correct
Feb 8, 2020 12:06PM PST

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Nope...I want you to focus
Feb 8, 2020 12:19PM PST

PERIOD...……

US = our COUNTRY
NOT AID discussed = MORE JAVELINS, indicating they were going to BUY more of them
THOUGH = we will sell them, but we're asking you to investigate what happened in 2016

BIDEN's son/Burisma conversation = LATER in the phone call

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RE:YOUR words
Feb 8, 2020 1:16PM PST

THOUGH = we will sell them, but we're asking you to investigate what happened in 2016

When someone says WILL then they say BUT...I get suspicious.

Some are soooo naive.

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Suspicious?
Feb 9, 2020 6:35AM PST

Yeah...that's the same path the House Dems went down and it fell flat for them. Should Bernie have the right to be suspicious of the DNC rigging it against him AGAIN? I know a lot of his supporters ARE....what do YOU think?

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RE:what do YOU think?
Feb 9, 2020 10:19AM PST

What do I think?

I think when you were a teenager....you never dreamed you would be a member of a cult.

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PS RE:because our country has been through a lot
Feb 8, 2020 1:06PM PST

Sounds like grovelling to me....

grov·el
act in an obsequious way in order to obtain someone's forgiveness or favor.

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RE: THEN Trump said "we'd like you to do US a favor though"
Feb 8, 2020 1:48PM PST

" (the actual meaning of "US").

Yeah, right...Him. Himself AND HIS cohorts

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Your link
Feb 6, 2020 4:03AM PST

can SAY whatever it wants since it's not actually on written record anywhere that these countries wanted the prosecutor gone, BUT nowhere in it does it state that ANY of those countries threatened to withhold ANYTHING, including MONEY/AID, EXCEPT Biden and the USA.

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RE:since it's not actually on written record anywhere
Feb 6, 2020 5:43AM PST

since it's not actually on written record anywhere

We haven't heard from Bolton yet UNDER OATH...AND there were others

Tell me about it.....Have you read the post I made in SE abou.t DJT and "written records"

It's right here in SE under the heading Nancy goes on a tear.
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Name something you will never see...DJT Under Oath

IF/WHEN HE can't tear something up HE "classifies" it.

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The House may not ever hear
Feb 8, 2020 11:56AM PST

from Bolton...he only agreed to testify to the SENATE if subpoenaed....he never agreed to do it with the HOUSE. lol

AND...there were plenty of witnesses under BO who were called and didn't show up to testify, including HILL's IT guy, remember?

Keep dreaming...while the House stays stagnate in place trying to get Trump out. And the main reason they are in such an uproar over it and can't do anything else for the country is because there quite possibly could be another SCOTUS confirmation even before November. They are in total panic mode because NOTHING they try works for them.

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RE:another SCOTUS confirmation even before November.
Feb 8, 2020 1:21PM PST

And what are they going to do?

Issue subpoenas that no one has to obey?

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What has that got to do with
Feb 9, 2020 6:33AM PST

a SCOTUS nomination?

Get with it, JP....you got nothin'...and you guys LOST. Get over it.

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RE:and you guys LOST. Get over it.
Feb 9, 2020 7:12AM PST

DJT holding up a copy the Washington Post (FAKE NEWS according to The RUMP)at the Prayer Breakfast Proclaiming HIS acquittal.

NOW it's NOT FAKE NEWS?

HIS "acquittal" IS "FAKE NEWS"

HE "lost" because HE changed HIS attitude towards the Washington Post.

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RE: to go over to Israel to interfere with THAT election
Feb 2, 2020 7:15PM PST
to go over to Israel to interfere with THAT election because he didn't want Bibi to win?.....

Obama went over to Israel...to interfere AND?

How Netanyahu Beat Obama

On March 3, 2015, Benjamin Netanyahu took a major gamble. Two weeks removed from Israel’s election day, sagging polls showed the prime minister narrowly behind the opposition Zionist Union. For the first time in a long while, it seriously looked like Netanyahu might lose—which made his presence in a foreign country, an ostensible break from the campaign trail, all the riskier.

That day, late in the morning, Netanyahu became only the second foreigner to address a joint meeting of the U.S. Congress three times—the other being Sir Winston Churchill. But unlike Churchill, Netanyahu arrived for this third speech without an invitation from the sitting president and fully intending to denounce the administration’s signature foreign policy priority at the time: the Iran nuclear deal.

The entire trip was something of a diplomatic slap in the face. President Barack Obama pointedly did not meet with Netanyahu during his March 2015 stay in Washington. House Speaker John Boehner had invited the prime minister to speak before Congress without first informing the White House, and Netanyahu had accepted the invitation in the same manner.


So, you say Obama went to Israel to slap Bibi,,,,and then Bibi came to America to be slapped again?

Looks to me like Boehner be the one doin' the slappin'.

Bibi is your idol?

Israel's Netanyahu indicted in corruption cases, hours before Mideast peace plan announced Tue January 28, 2020

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