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by TONI H / October 22, 2014 12:07 AM PDT
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Don't you find it interesting
by Diana Forum moderator / October 22, 2014 12:39 AM PDT
In reply to: Silicon Valley money

that the wealthy people in Silicon Valley give their money to the party that wants to tax them more?

Shows where their values are. They would rather help people and get less themselves. I would like to see how much those people give to charity.


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"Wanting to" and "Doing" are
by TONI H / October 22, 2014 1:47 AM PDT

two different things......why do you think no tax reform bills are ever written and voted on in the Senate? The Dem party has basically spread the word to their donors that publicly they'll trash them and say that the top 1% should pay more, but nothing will ever really come of it so they don't have to worry about it.

As for charities.....it's been proven that even the lowest earner in the Conservative side of the two parties give more to charities than any liberal/Democrat.

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The Senate doesn't set taxes and budgets
by Diana Forum moderator / October 22, 2014 9:49 AM PDT

The House does and look who controls it.


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There are many bills
by TONI H / October 22, 2014 11:00 AM PDT

that the Senate writes and votes on and then sends them to the House for a vote or amendments to return to the Senate for a vote for the Pres to sign, Diana.........not all bills originate in the House first. The fact is, the Senate under Harry Reid and BO has not once written a bill regarding tax reform.

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(NT) You were specifically talking about tax reforms
by Diana Forum moderator / October 23, 2014 3:07 AM PDT
In reply to: There are many bills
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Yes, I was
by TONI H / October 23, 2014 5:33 AM PDT

and the Senate has never written one to send to the House for either a vote or for amendments..........

Trying to figure out your point........

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The senate has nothing to do with originating
by Diana Forum moderator / October 23, 2014 7:02 AM PDT
In reply to: Yes, I was

tax reforms or budgets or spending bills.


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Just looked it up in the Constituion
by Diana Forum moderator / October 23, 2014 7:09 AM PDT

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.


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A majority of the bills coming out of the House
by Diana Forum moderator / October 23, 2014 7:19 AM PDT

are to defund ACA.


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by TONI H / October 23, 2014 7:59 AM PDT

since the Republicans actually want to have tax 'reform', which is to change the tax laws and not 'raise revenue', Diana, there is no reason that the Senate cannot write and submit a bill to do just that to the House.......They have written and submitted many bills, with earmarks for more funding, many times. Isn't that a 'raising revenue' issue?

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The Senate and President can suggest all sorts of things
by Diana Forum moderator / October 23, 2014 9:33 AM PDT
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but only the House can actually submit a bill to raise revenue and they aren't going to do it especially on their masters.


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Oh, Good Grief.....
by TONI H / October 23, 2014 9:50 AM PDT

Nancy Pelosi was 'king' in the House for his first two years....IF they wanted to raise revenue, he had plenty of support and time to get it done. When will you EVER admit that the DEMS don't want tax reform of ANY kind?

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Didn't they have to wait for the Bush bill to expire first?
by Diana Forum moderator / October 23, 2014 10:55 AM PDT
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They were a little busy the first two years as well.

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Sure they were busy...with Obamacare
by TONI H / October 23, 2014 8:04 PM PDT

and that was the ONLY thing they concentrated on........other than spending and wasting two trillion dollars on bailouts and stimulus crap that helped NOBODY.

You can excuse this administration for two years of 'being busy' and ignoring everything else they could have been working on that was really important to the country, but blame Bush for 9-11 after 8 months because they didn't 'listen' to Clinton's warning about OBL (when Clinton did nothing about him when he had plenty of chances including having him in custody)........and even THAT intel wasn't definitive enough to actually do anything about it anyhow.

I'm done......

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Giving through taxes is the easy way
by Steven Haninger / October 22, 2014 2:38 AM PDT

and, IMO, the less efficient way to help other people by sharing one's success. Since we're often told that welfare benefits aren't the drain that we might think, it would seem that direct giving is the way to make sure charity dollars go where we want them to go. If you've never heard of the concept of "good stewardship", I'll let you know that it's not as simple as tossing a few bucks in the beggars tin can. It actually requires thinking and making certain that what we give will be properly spent. If folks want to trust the government with their charity dollars, let 'em have at it. As for me, I'll seek out and support those operations that I feel are most deserving.

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I know but how much have Republicans
by Diana Forum moderator / October 23, 2014 9:34 AM PDT

given to help feed and clothe and house the poor?


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Far more than Dems have.....
by TONI H / October 23, 2014 9:51 AM PDT

I provided links before about this to back it up.

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