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Should I try to upgrade my pc or start again?

by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 5:09 AM PDT

I am looking into upgrading my old pc and I don't know if it would be worth it to go for a new ram/cpu/motherboard or if there is way to upgrade and keep some of those parts. If the best option is to over clock my current cpu then could anyone suggest a cooler for that socket as well as a good full tower case (because there is terrible airflow in my current one)?

Here are my specs (I don't have specifics to hand because I'm at work but I can update this if necessary):

i5 3570k at stock clock speed & stock cpu fan
A non branded motherboard that has the FCLGA1155 socket (I will check the name and specs when I get home)
16GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance Pro (2x8GB)
650 watt semi-modular corsair power supply
An old sound card
MSI GTX1070 Gaming X

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Clarification Request
That should be a fine PC.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / March 28, 2017 9:23 AM PDT

Did you upgrade to SSD yet?

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Should I try to upgrade my pc or start again?
by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 3:04 PM PDT

I am looking into upgrading my old pc and I don't know if it would be worth it to go for a new ram/cpu/motherboard or if there is way to upgrade and keep some of those parts. If the best option is to over clock my current cpu then could anyone suggest a cooler for that socket as well as a good full tower case (because there is terrible airflow in my current one)?

Here are my specs:

i5 3570k at stock clock speed & stock cpu fan
Gigabyte Z77-D3H (Motherboard)
16GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance Pro (2x8GB)
650 watt semi-modular corsair power supply
An old sound card
MSI GTX1070 Gaming X
125 GB SSD & 1 TB HD

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oops
by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 3:08 PM PDT

I thought that would update the original post.

All Answers

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Answer
Upgrade
by Bob__B / March 28, 2017 9:27 AM PDT

What are you trying to fix?

What does not work to your liking?

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Upgrade
by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 3:13 PM PDT
In reply to: Upgrade

The cpu is bottlenecking the graphic card's performance when gaming so I am looking to upgrade it. The problem is that I will have to replace my motherboard/ram if I want to upgrade my cpu to anything but the I5 3770k, which will make little difference for the £200+ price tag.

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however
by renegade600 / March 28, 2017 3:17 PM PDT
In reply to: Upgrade

if you replace the motherboard and if you are using oem/system builders operating system or upgraded from an oem/system builders operating system, you will have to purchase a new operating system to be genuine. that would put a big dent in the price tag.

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Ah
by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 3:27 PM PDT
In reply to: however

Yea that would be a problem haha

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No Way !
by itsdigger / March 28, 2017 3:21 PM PDT
In reply to: Upgrade

That CPU can handle 3 of those GPU"s !
Also, I see that you already have a SSD so this machine should be SMOKIN HOT !!

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It really cant
by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 3:32 PM PDT
In reply to: No Way !

The cpu runs at max all the time when playing games and causes stuttering when trying to load lots of objects, possibly large texture files as well (e.g. 4-8k Fallout 4 modded textures etc)

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Bottleneck
by Bob__B / March 28, 2017 3:22 PM PDT
In reply to: Upgrade

With exception of a couple of games it's highly doubtful that cpu is limiting your games.

Tell why you think the cpu is a problem.

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bottleneck
by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 4:04 PM PDT
In reply to: Bottleneck

"The cpu runs at max all the time when playing games and causes stuttering when trying to load lots of objects, possibly large texture files as well (e.g. 4-8k Fallout 4 modded textures etc)"

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And is this on SSD or old rusty HDD?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / March 28, 2017 4:12 PM PDT
In reply to: bottleneck

I have a rather last gen 960m and Fallout 4 rare coughs. But I have SSD.

Those Seagates are notorious for high CPU times, just sharing.

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Just read the Speccy. OS on SSD
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / March 28, 2017 4:14 PM PDT

And an old 1TB Seagate. Typical of a setup I've seen before.

Try it without the HDD.

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I cant
by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 4:21 PM PDT

I fallout is way to large, especially with my current setup, to fit on my ssd ahah

Would it be worth getting another high quality hard drive to run games from??

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The Seagates, high CPU complaints
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / March 28, 2017 4:27 PM PDT
In reply to: I cant

Are too many for me to ignore. I have some gamer laptop with a 512GB M2 SSD and plenty of space left even with Visual Studio, Office, Fallout and more loaded up.

It would be a shame to change the CPU and find it's the usual other bottleneck.

I'm not saying the HDD quality wasn't there but HDDs do start to get wonky and Seagates seem to rule the forums on troubles with seemingly untraceable unexplained CPU loads.

While I've seen it too many times, I also get a lot of questions why. Sorry folk, it's a mystery to me why this is.

Yes, I always try a new SATA cable before we change it out.

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Doubt the bottleneck, The old i5-2500 could
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / March 28, 2017 3:29 PM PDT
In reply to: Upgrade

Drive 3 graphic cards so the issue is somewhere else.

Nod to getting to SSD.

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Answer
You have
by itsdigger / March 28, 2017 9:36 AM PDT

A REALLY cool PC ( I hate to use the word nice )
I would leave everything as is except as Bob mentioned , change to a SSD .

Maybe even lose the sound card , why even have a sound card when the MB has sound built in .
As far as a case goes , that's your choice , but is the computer getting hot or something ?

Maybe give the case and fans a good cleaning with canned air and change the thermal paste on the CPU and if the GPU is out of warranty I would replace the thermal paste on it too.

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Upgrading
by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 3:25 PM PDT
In reply to: You have

Thanks for the compliment, it's just that the cpu is really bottlenecking the system in terms of performance.

Will the sound card make any difference to the sound quality at all? (considering how old the motherboard is)

The graphics card barely fits in the case (the side panel bends over the pci power cables) and the case has terrible airflow with space for two fans...

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Also, you said
by itsdigger / March 28, 2017 3:33 PM PDT

" A non branded motherboard that has the FCLGA1155 socket (I will check the name and specs when I get home) " Sooo, what MB is it ?

Maybe post a Speccy here so the Pro's can really dig into this computer and tell really what's what...

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I forgot to update the post
by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 3:37 PM PDT
In reply to: Also, you said

Gigabyte Z77-D3H

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Wow Nice MB
by itsdigger / March 28, 2017 3:46 PM PDT

Which One ?( I'm Jealous LOL ) I have the third on the list Here and it's only 2 yrs. old

Your stuff is fairly new......

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MB
by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 3:54 PM PDT
In reply to: Wow Nice MB

It looks like the second one on the list.

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Man ! You'd Be Nuts
by itsdigger / March 28, 2017 3:56 PM PDT
In reply to: MB

to give that MB up ! Shocked

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Why?
by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 4:01 PM PDT
In reply to: Man ! You'd Be Nuts

Is it a particularly good one? (Im pretty new to pc building)

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Take the side panel off...
by Dafydd Forum moderator / March 28, 2017 3:39 PM PDT
In reply to: Also, you said

and point a fan at it. What happens? Don't rely on temp software for a true reading.
Dafydd.

Post was last edited on March 28, 2017 3:40 PM PDT

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Here is the specky:
by Cyrion / March 28, 2017 3:41 PM PDT
In reply to: Also, you said
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I still rely on the Pro's to read speccy's
by itsdigger / March 28, 2017 4:11 PM PDT
In reply to: Here is the specky:

I'm still learning this part Blush

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But .....
by itsdigger / March 28, 2017 4:13 PM PDT

I Would go to Crucial and run a upgrade test for RAM and upgrade to the fastest RAM possible...

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Well, since Bob gave you a clean report
by itsdigger / March 28, 2017 4:48 PM PDT
In reply to: But .....

While you're at crucial checking for RAM , you might want to see what they suggest for a larger SSD like the one Bob suggested .

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Pretty clean Speccy.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / March 28, 2017 4:19 PM PDT
In reply to: Here is the specky:

Just toss out the virtual CD/DVD emulator.

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