Should Al Gore be stripped of Nobel Prize? Trump & Inhofe

Okay, disprove it.

I have to say I find your post difficult to follow, Seems a bit like incoherent rambling.

Ronny doubled the debt and so did W. Isn't it about time to admit that the Starve-The-Beasters are out to bankrupt this country? Is that so easy to miss? Kill SS and Medicare by bankruptcy? That much at least must be clear. That, can not be in dispute by now. And I'm not totally averse to the idea that people without pressure on them, likely won't work as hard as otherwise. And SOMEBODY has to clean the toilets. FAST AND EFFICENTLY! And then again, some sit by the pool, sipping margaritas, waiting on the dividends check. That's the way it is. It's just a matter of degree and sustainability. Conservatism, you might say. Don't you agree?

I know, it's a train wreak. Game of chicken. I wonder though if y'all realize how many of us leftists are all for drastically cutting spending? Just name it! If it's not producing a positive output for the country... then we, you and me, are not against cutting it! Right? See what I mean?

Heck, Obama himself tried to pass a commission to figure out just this stuff, and it was stomped on by the Reps. At some dang point it has to come cleat that we can not keep paying interest to the very self same people who didn't pay enough in taxes in the first dang place and caused this abomination of a debt in the first place.

You think I love and forgive the Dems? I don't.

If you're going to do the "I don't understand" thing now... Well I just can't help you. I think it's a disingenuous tactic.

Anyway, I'm more than sated here and don't need any more. (As Yogi Berra might have said.)

Let's just take Matthew Lesko's book, start on page one, and knock down everything that doesn't show a return. Take each and every item and see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M7LihKK3cg&feature=related

The way I look at it, if you're not with me on this you are a Starve The Beaster. When did it become the patriotic thing, to want the government to fail?

Did you notice that this is the anniversary of W's Shock N' Awe? Do you need another link to Baghdad year zero: ?
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2004/09/0080197

of the whole wide wide world. Yet we were told that our soldiers, staging in Kuwait, were going to gassed by unmanned crop-dusters with anthrax and mustard gas. Proud? At least it wasn't for oil. Much.

Happy anniversary. (you takers. you non workers.)

I'm sick now.

Is that preferable? How much? More and more? If you give your teen in college a credit or debit card with a limit on it, are you to blame if they hit the limit sooner than they should have and then expect yet more funds to be deposited to support their excess? Of course not. The solution? Add nothing to the credit limit or debit account till the next period you were intending to. Yes, it means your child may end up eating spaghetti, or Ramen noodles instead of pizza every night for awhile. How else is he to learn how to budget properly? You might object to "Starve the Beast" but it's preferable, with a better chance of eventual success than "Feed the Beast".

As for "reality based communities" which oppose unilateral policies, maybe it's time they took a reality based view at Obama's unilateral approach to policy.

Maybe if I drop the politics I can keep some of the skin on my ankles around here.

It was on your advice that I never installed a toilet paper roller in the bathroom. I'm still using the orbital fold. See? I take a good idea where I can get it. Thanks, bud. Last I remember you had that terrible oozing sunburn on your leg that you got on the boat. I bet you've still got scars. Take care.

OK. Now you can let the dog back out.

And yes, some scarring was left on the legs. I still have those pages.
http://glenburniemd.net/Fishing/Thumbs/index.htm
http://glenburniemd.net/LegHeal/RightLegHealing2002.pdf

A lot of us here have read Science Fiction. I've been watching this thread. I'd bet you read Make Room! Make Room" (Solyent Green).

Long time! I remember YOU'RE a reader. Have you read any of the berserker stuff? SABERHAGEN? Or Olaf Stapledon? Highly recommended. Probably online for free if you knew where to look.

...when you've committed or been engaged in perpetrating a fraud, even if you were the patsy or bagman which might apply in Al Gore's case. The second consideration however is if Al Gore fell for the scam, perhaps we dodged a bullet 9-10 years ago when he failed to become President. Gullibility does not suit the Presidency.

If so, I agree, hang him!

Mark

we've gone through the Looking Glass again!

it has been shown to be worthless several times. At this pint it's a joke.

wrong again!

just as the Obama award was.

I don't recall. If so, then maybe their reasoning is there. I can't see giving an award and not saying why.

Here's the whole public speech about why Al Gore and IPCC were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. IPCC is the 10 person group set up by the UN which fuels the Global Warming fervor, even using false data to accomplish it's goal. Basically they need to "prove" climate change to justify their continued existence. Based on climate change the Global Warmers want "carbon tax" and probably benefit a great degree from it. Likely a backdoor for the UN to pass taxes on various parts of the world, of course those considered the biggest polluters, which would be the developed countries.


http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2007/press.html

The Nobel Peace Prize for 2007

The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 is to be shared, in two equal parts, between the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and Albert Arnold (Al) Gore Jr. for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change.

Indications of changes in the earth's future climate must be treated with the utmost seriousness, and with the precautionary principle uppermost in our minds. Extensive climate changes may alter and threaten the living conditions of much of mankind. They may induce large-scale migration and lead to greater competition for the earth's resources. Such changes will place particularly heavy burdens on the world's most vulnerable countries. There may be increased danger of violent conflicts and wars, within and between states.

Through the scientific reports it has issued over the past two decades, the IPCC has created an ever-broader informed consensus about the connection between human activities and global warming. Thousands of scientists and officials from over one hundred countries have collaborated to achieve greater certainty as to the scale of the warming. Whereas in the 1980s global warming seemed to be merely an interesting hypothesis, the 1990s produced firmer evidence in its support. In the last few years, the connections have become even clearer and the consequences still more apparent.

Al Gore has for a long time been one of the world's leading environmentalist politicians. He became aware at an early stage of the climatic challenges the world is facing. His strong commitment, reflected in political activity, lectures, films and books, has strengthened the struggle against climate change. He is probably the single individual who has done most to create greater worldwide understanding of the measures that need to be adopted.

By awarding the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 to the IPCC and Al Gore, the Norwegian Nobel Committee is seeking to contribute to a sharper focus on the processes and decisions that appear to be necessary to protect the world?s future climate, and thereby to reduce the threat to the security of mankind. Action is necessary now, before climate change moves beyond man?s control.

We know THAT won't happen.

However there is still strong concern about all this. From that article and what the head of IPCC said, it seems the game is still on, the bias is still held, and a new path to save the global warmers is to be initiated.

In a letter to IPCC chairman Rajendra Pachauri, Miliband says: "Mistakes such as the IPCC statements on Himalayan glaciers are inevitably damaging. This is a matter of concern because the reliability and good name of the IPCC is vital to ensuring all countries recognise the dangers of climate change."

Miliband said the IPCC needed to thoroughly review its procedures and the way it responded to media criticism. It should also find a way to correct errors and to minimise future problems, particularly with reports drawn from grey literature.

"Clearly this is only the outline of a strategy," the letter says. "There is a great deal of work to do in turning it into a detailed plan for change. The British government is happy to assist you in that process."

They've screwed so royally on this the entire IPCC should be disbanded by the UN. Of course I'd love to see the UN disbanded too, but that's another topic, maybe.

I found 8 of them as heads of 3 working groups. Missing two.

Ottmar Edenhofer, Youba Sokona and Ramon Pichs. Patrick Matschoss

Dr. Chris Field of the United States and Dr. Vicente Barros of Argentina.

Dr. Thomas Stocker of Switzerland and Dr. Dahe Qin of China


http://www.ipcc-wg2.gov/
http://www.ipcc-wg1.unibe.ch/
http://www.ipcc-wg3.de/organization-and-tsu/the-ipcc-working-group-iii
http://www.ipcc-wg3.de/organization-and-tsu/organization-and-tsu-1
http://www.pik-potsdam.de/members/edenh
http://ipcc-wg2.gov/organization/

Dr. Thelma KRUG
Brazil

Mr. Taka HIRAISHI
Japan

http://www.ipcc-nggip.iges.or.jp/org/overview.html

The SE candidates would be much more likely to turn up an independent result:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/geraldwarner/100029630/climategate-the-ipccs-whitewash-review-is-the-agw-camps-biggest-mistake-yet/