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Should Al Gore be stripped of Nobel Prize? Trump & Inhofe

Feb 25, 2010 1:18AM PST

I think so. Maybe then they could give posthumously to the woman who helped save all those children from the Nazis, the one who should have received it at the time. Hey, maybe Al Gore could end up with some jail time for fraud? Subversive activities? Nah, that would be too perfect, LOL.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,587353,00.html
SEN. JAMES INHOFE R-OKLA.: Well, we have not heard anything from Al Gore, Neil. And I don?t anticipate that we will, but we would like to have him come, hold a hearing in Environment and Public Works.
Every assertion that he made in his science fiction movie has now been disproven, sea level rising, Himalayas melting and all this stuff. The significant thing right now, though, is the hearing that we had this morning, because we have the minority report that we put together which shows that climate-gate, fixing the science, cooking the science, actually took place.
We have it all documented. And people are being investigated right now. The inspector general for the EPA, for NASA, for NOAA, for all these different groups to do their own investigation. Then we send that to the Justice Department. That?s happening, by the way, in the U.K... found that violations... is a criminal offense. Unfortunately, in Great Britain, the statute of limitations has already run. Well, that could be the case here, in which case it would be a criminal violation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/15/donald-trump-points-to-sn_n_462834.html
Donald Trump wants the Nobel Committee to strip former Vice President Al Gore of his Nobel Peace Prize.

The New York Post reports that the billionaire told a country club crowd of 500,:
"With the coldest winter ever recorded, with snow setting record levels up and down the coast, the Nobel committee should take the Nobel Prize back from Al Gore."..."Gore wants us to clean up our factories... when China and other countries couldn't care less... China, Japan and India are laughing at America's stupidity."

http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/global_cooling_7njz5ZtpFblMuF5Vf7LJmN
Donald Trump is not a big believer in global warming. "With the coldest winter ever recorded, with snow setting record levels up and down the coast, the Nobel committee should take the Nobel Prize back from Al Gore," the tycoon told members of his Trump National Golf Club in Westchester in a recent speech. "Gore wants us to clean up our factories and plants in order to protect us from global warming, when China and other countries couldn't care less. It would make us totally noncompetitive in the manufacturing world, and China, Japan and India are laughing at America's stupidity." The crowd of 500 stood up and cheered.

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So now Donald Trump is an authority on climate?
Feb 25, 2010 4:20AM PST

ROFL. His only connection to the climate is making sure the wind isn't strong enough to mess up his comb-over.

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Climatology degrees are free this week at....
Feb 25, 2010 4:42AM PST

...ACE Hardware if you buy the combo deal of snow shovel and umbrella. If you buy the triple combo which includes the bag of Ice Melt, your climatology degree will be laminated.

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Yeah, right, when I want to know which way the wind's blowin
Feb 25, 2010 9:38AM PST

g I always check his hair. What a brilliant authorities they've chosen, the only thing Trump's an authority on is money, womanizing, and how to make other people's flesh crawl. And James Inhofe has been singing the same bought-by-business anthem his whole life.

It's people trash talking that forces people like me who are neutral into the other camp. They make the Anti-Global Warming Camp look so repellant.

Rob

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(NT) you sound very neutral
Feb 25, 2010 10:44AM PST
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No less neutral than the vast majority here, just on the
Mar 18, 2010 7:38PM PDT

other side of the question. And I was belittling those Scientific and Intellectual Giants Trump and Inhofe.

However watching the weather this year, not so much globally, but in the continent of North America, I'm very concerned with what's going on. Above normal temperatures for the mountains of BC and the Olympics, way above normal temperatures for the Canadian and Northern US prairies, record temperatures in Ontario, lots of snow on the Atlantic Seaboard i.e way above average.

It looks like hints of Global Climate Change to me, but I don't claim to be a Scientific or Intellectual Giant. Just very knowledgeable about the History of the US and Europe, and apparently even that is up for debate here, though in a properly referee-ed situation I have no worries as to how well I would do.

Rob

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He's as much an authoriy on climate as Gore....
Feb 25, 2010 4:51AM PST

Or me or you, for that matter.

I don't pretend to be one.

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Really?
Feb 25, 2010 5:45AM PST

Donald Trump studied climate science at Harvard? I had no idea!

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Not what I said....
Feb 25, 2010 6:47AM PST

Al may have take ONE course in climate science. Doesn't make him an expert, does it?

Don't get carried away with yourself.

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It gives him a big leg up on Donald Trump
Feb 26, 2010 12:05AM PST

And me. Don't know about you. You said Trump had just as much expertise as Gore. Gore studied climate science even if it was one class. Trump did not.

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You don't think it's at all odd
Feb 26, 2010 12:10AM PST

That with all of the collective smarts and educated people involved with promting AGW, how WRONG they are/have been?

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I think the idea is....
Feb 26, 2010 12:18AM PST

The smart, educated ones must be right because they are smart and educated.


Gore's not wrong because he took a course and Trump IS wrong because he didn't. Something like that.

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Which makes me think of............
Feb 26, 2010 1:05AM PST

Keynesian economists.

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You speak as if.....
Feb 26, 2010 3:21AM PST

....MMGW has been scientifically proven to be false, which it has not.

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And you speak as if
Feb 26, 2010 3:44AM PST

there is evidence.


Good night Gracie.
I can see it will get pointless quick

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Big leg up? I don't think so.
Feb 26, 2010 12:15AM PST

Does one course make Gore an expert? Does he really have more expertise on the subject than Trump? I'd say they are probably about even (except that Al gets it wrong most of the time).

You know, I took a typing course a long time ago and I'm still a lousy typist.

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(NT) He is an expert on divorcing blonde wives. :-(
Feb 25, 2010 5:00AM PST
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and before that, he was...
Feb 25, 2010 5:01AM PST

...an expert on marrying them, lol. Wink

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(NT) :-)
Feb 25, 2010 5:07AM PST
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Since I've heard so many say
Feb 25, 2010 8:58AM PST

it's a sham anyway, why not let him keep it?

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I think Henry Kissinger is higher up the list to lose his
Feb 25, 2010 9:26AM PST

Nobel Peace Prize than Al Gore is to lose his. And this isn't the Olympics, they didn't catch Al Gore doping the weather, he advocated a broadly supported theory that you guys, except maybe Josh, don't like. He didn't cheat to get it, even if one or two scientists did. He relied on the vast preponderance of evidence. The Nobel Committee, who are generally very well regarded, chose him. If you've got a quarrel with the Nobel Committee and the prize then give all the medals back. You can't say they're worthless and then brag that the US has so many of them. And you do brag about it, I used to when I lived down south.

Can't you guys leave your political pit bulls in the kennel for a change.

Rob

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You might be right
Feb 25, 2010 9:36AM PST

Removing it at this point might give it some credibility back.

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Maybe you guys didn't read enough sifi as a kid.
Feb 26, 2010 1:34AM PST

Time is long. Shouldn't we try to leave some of something for future generations? No doubt we will burn every drop of oil and every lump of coal.

BTW. While we're slurping the free bubble up as fast as we can, can't we NOT leave the kids in debt? Please!

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I read plenty...whart's your point?
Feb 26, 2010 1:38AM PST
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And think about it....
Feb 26, 2010 1:48AM PST

IF we were using up the oil, but managed to step back and conserve, wouldn't you be accusing the next generation of using up all the oil, or the next after that?

The fallacy is that we will always be using oil at the rate we are using it now or at a greater rate. Nothing will ever rep[lace it and we'll never find more. It was claimed in the 19th Century that the supply of coal was nearly exhausted.

Oil has been predicted to be running out several times in the past. At pone rime wit was predicted that the human race could not produce enough food to feed everyone, yet we've far exceeded the quantities needed.

The sky is not falling.

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(NT) we have huge reserves of coal
Feb 26, 2010 1:49AM PST
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Yes. Oil, too.`
Feb 26, 2010 5:42AM PST

We will not run out. That is a canard foisted upon gullible people by politicians. And it's been done many times over, too. Chicken Little lives!

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!
Feb 26, 2010 2:04AM PST

The Crash Course
http://www.anglofareast.com/research/crash-course/

Time is long. There will be a time of Road Warrior, or Armageddon or what ever you want to call it. What do you think is the max carrying capacity of a sustainable Earth? There IS some number that is NOT.

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?
Feb 26, 2010 2:35AM PST

Maybe we're looking at different time horizons. I just remind you that the first car (and there was only one of them at the time) was is in about 1890 or so. My Mom was born in 1919.

Running the Numbers
An American Self-Portrait
http://current.com/1tghm4c

Doesn't that scare you just a little? Is growth infinite?

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Sorry, but you arfe not making much sense...
Feb 26, 2010 5:38AM PST

so...

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Arfe I not? :-)
Feb 26, 2010 5:58AM PST

This argument is moot. Nada. Zilch.

When push comes to shove and you or I need to burn something, something is going to get burnt. Down to the last twig. Dead polar bears and no more gulf stream will just be curiosities. Ain't nothing moving John Edwards out of that 28,200-square-foot house or prying Al Gore from his Lear Jet. Why should I go cold?

Baring some magical population reduction by 600% or so, it's a done deal. Over. Kaput. Fuggedaboudit.