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Shortages of natural gas this winter, only a couple of month

by Rob_Boyter / February 4, 2014 3:29 PM PST

after articles publicizing the US soon to be free from imported gas supplies.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/shocking-natural-gas-prices-expected-to-continue-to-rise-1.2520381

I grant that this article is about Canada, and about New Brunswick, probably beyond the reach of the Trans Canada Pipeline which has brought natural gas from Alberta since long long ago. (Long before my acquaintance with things Canadian.)

It just goes to show that Global Warming or not, Cold Winters are still possible and vicious. As previously noted here, I wonder what the Polar weather looks like this year, and is Siberia having the troubles we (Canada and the US) are?

Rob

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You never know
by Willy / February 4, 2014 8:21 PM PST

NG and LPG gases need storage if they're not sold. While the US supplies now are greater than ever before, it exports much of that gas. Why, some couldn't be in the regional areas where such are in common use couldn't have the surplus they needed is a reflection of the past yrs. not needing as much. However, as always mother nature does what it wants to do and gave us a whammy in weather.

I've seen my neighbor's peropane price practically double now to when it was before at norms. Now, many users are complaining of the cost but not being able to get *any*. The woes some are facing is just another item to b*tch about. At least for this writer, I've taken places to reduce gas use and use wood. Also, better insulation to reduce yet more gas use. All this still is less than needed because of this bad weather and prolonged winter it seems to be. At least the Farmer Almanac was right again and I have extra firewood. Even that is becoming a problem, because some users of firewood have also switched to the "ext. boiler type" to heat homes and water as well. That is a constant drain on natural wood sources and driving the cost of "corded wood" more than before. -----Willy Happy

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We need to
by itsdigger / February 5, 2014 12:41 AM PST

figure out how to make all of the methane gas from the land fills usable. Perfume it up or condense it and filter it or something. There's a land fill on the far south side of Chicago that has hundreds of pipes stickin' out with flames just blastin' out of them burning off the methane.

Digger

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So you're the ones creating those flames
by Steven Haninger / February 5, 2014 12:57 AM PST
In reply to: We need to

which are warming the planet! Enough already! I'm tired of shoveling the results of global warming off my sidewalk and driveway. My poor achin' back. Happy

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Warming?
by itsdigger / February 5, 2014 1:06 AM PST

Yeah Right ! It hasn't been out of the 20's here in a month, gonna be 3 deg. over night . Got another 6 inches of snow overnight too.

Sure am glad I found a kid that likes to make a few bucks shoveling snow , he's been here every time. Good Kid! At the end of the season I think I'll give him a nice little bonus. He Earned It Big Time !

Digger

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Burn now or explode later
by Willy / February 5, 2014 2:22 AM PST
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Some business do use that methane to heat their shops or building when they can or seems reasonable. The point being that can be alot of methane having to be stored before use, especially during the summer. Plus, if used inside a building and not a elec. generator type of thing, it has to be "odored" for safety reason. Methane is LPG in its natural state when found in ground.

I have the instructions to make a small methane source from manure but that has to be close to the house and I understand the process but its get rickdee to think it will last and be safe. Of course from animal manure or plant clipping. -----Willy Happy

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I agree. There's an old dump for Toronto which is now a ski
by Rob_Boyter / February 5, 2014 5:11 AM PST
In reply to: We need to

hill with pipes sticking out, but no flames. It only makes sense to make use of a greenhouse gas for cooking and heating, since those things are necessary anyway and will still produce as much CO2 as they do, but if the methane was recycled, it at least would be removed from the equation.

Then again, what is going to be done about belching and f*rting cows and sheep who also produce huge amounts of methane. I once saw one of those ludicrous statistics about methane production in New Zealand, and wondered why all the sheep didn't roam with little collector compressors on their backs. New Zealand could be self sufficient both for household usage and for automobile fuel.

Rob

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Come on Boys...
by Dafydd Forum moderator / February 5, 2014 5:19 AM PST

... surely there's enough hot air on this forum to keep everybody warm.

Dafydd.

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