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Shooting sports indoors with __??

by Audacious1 / July 14, 2005 6:38 AM PDT

I have never owned a camcorder. I want to tape badminton which is played indoors, very often under flourescent lighting which outsiders consider dim. We are unable to use auxillary lighting (or flash photography) as it affects the players. I am hoping to be able to produce tapes good enough to be shown on the local stations here - not in USA (and maybe do a wedding or two). Presently we pay about US$300 to produce a short clip that is carried on the sports news of, if we're lucky, 3 stations. Owning our own unit would enable us to produce full length matches and hopefully get more exposure for the sport. I was initially looking at Panasonic but after research it seems that Sony is the champion on low light situations. Am I on the right track? Any suggestions re specific units that might be economically feasible? I am in the US for maybe 2 days, 3 or four times a year. Not enough to look around and do proper assesments so I depend heavily on forums like this one for information. Rental is not an option. Most of us approach a new electronics purchase with the thought that there is probably a great buy out there that someone knows about and all we have to do is ask and we will be told what is the best unit which will cost about $500 and be better than someone else's $2000 unit. Pipe dream.

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You summed it up well.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 14, 2005 6:43 AM PDT

"which will cost about $500 and be better than someone else's $2000 unit. Pipe dream."

My advice is to get what you see them using so you can at the very least get the same quality.


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Shooting sports indoors with _
by jcrobso / July 15, 2005 12:55 AM PDT

" I am in the US for maybe 2 days, 3 or four times a year."
What format do you need?? NTSC or PAL??
Yes $500 would be the minimum, but $900 can get you a very good camera. Sonys and Panasonics in this range have good low light and settings for florsent lighting. John

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$900 would be good
by Audacious1 / July 15, 2005 2:40 PM PDT

We use the same standard equipment as in the US - I think that's NTSC - right? $900 would be good. Any specific model #s? Two units that I was considering based on customer reviews, were Sony HC90 and Pana DVC30. The Sony is half the price of the Pana but seems to perform better in low light conditions. I note Bob's advice and I will check but I suspect that the pro's are using pro equipment which will probably be out of my range. Thanks to both of you, John and Bob, for your responses so far. Is the $2000+ HD equipment practical at this time?

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The Sony HD units are being used commercially as
by Kiddpeat / July 16, 2005 12:05 AM PDT
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throw away cameras to film crash scenes, etc. However, they do require a complete computer upgrade to capture and edit the video. I was advised, among other things, that dual core AMD 64s would be highly beneficial.

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by drhiberd / July 16, 2005 6:27 AM PDT

I have the Sony HC90 and love it. Beautiful footage indoors and out. HD is great, but find out what you would be getting into first. Editing HD means faster computer, high end editing program, etc. The quality of standard dv is still very, very impressive.
By the way, I don't think badminton games would be considered low light. Gyms are usually pretty well lit.

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...maybe Sony HC1000 or a Pana
by Audacious1 / July 17, 2005 1:49 AM PDT
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The HC90 does seem to be a beautiful unit however I just read that an external mike cannot be connected which would make it unsuitable for me as I would need to do interviews as part of most presentations. Maybe I should consider the HC1000 with 'broadcast quality' if can still be had. And the HD video idea has been abandoned with the knowledge of the requirements for that. Nobody has said anything about the Panasonics. Is the DVC30 as good as its reviews state or maybe the GS400?
As for the low light issue, maybe I'm being too concerned although the light in the badminton hall where we usually play (drop lighting) is much dimmer than the usual gym. When the pros come there to shoot for the first time they are all concerned with the dim light. Thanks for your input.

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by drhiberd / July 17, 2005 2:05 AM PDT

The GS400 would probably be a good choice. It gets rave reviews and has lots of manual control. It also has a mic input. The reviews for the HC1000 are nearly identical, but the GS400 has more manual control. This would probably be as close to perfect that you will get unless you move up to the $2000 range.

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