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Sherrod v. Breitbart

Jul 30, 2010 10:38AM PDT
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703999304575399372790501284.html

Shirley Sherrod says she plans to sue conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart, the Associated Press reports from San Diego: "Speaking Thursday at the National Association of Black Journalists convention, Sherrod said she would definitely sue over the video that took her remarks out of context":

Sherrod said she had not received an apology from Breitbart and no longer wanted one. "He had to know that he was targeting me," she said.

Does she have a winning case? Probably not.

Ha! Good luck with that one. Ever heard of the First Amendment?

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(NT) Well said, C1ay
Jul 31, 2010 1:28AM PDT
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WOW !!!!!!!!!!
Jul 31, 2010 1:36AM PDT

Not all all like those professional "journolisters"

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It's pretty obvious...
Jul 31, 2010 4:42AM PDT
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(NT) umm, you have not edited it, but he has
Jul 31, 2010 4:50AM PDT
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hopefully you have a screen image capture?
Jul 31, 2010 4:57AM PDT

I've noticed stories change and not always with an "updated on..." to reveal that, I've taken to doing screen captures of something I considered of interest, to me. Even when I pay a bill online, I do screen capture of the confirmation page, just in case.

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-chuckle-
Jul 31, 2010 5:05AM PDT

In order to do that you have to have seen the page in the first place.

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Will she also sue the White House, Obama, Ag Dept?
Jul 31, 2010 5:36AM PDT

Let's keep in mind that Breitbart didn't fire her.

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When did I say he did?
Jul 31, 2010 5:43AM PDT

I am speaking to Breitbart and his actions... how does raising the fact that Breitbart did not fire Sherrod have anything to do with what I am speaking to?

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we're talking about Sherrod, right?
Jul 31, 2010 6:05AM PDT

And her suing Breitbart is just part of the subject. If she wants to sue someone who did more damage to her, it would be certain govt officials.

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IMO...
Jul 31, 2010 6:09AM PDT

just making excuses for her.

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(NT) excuses for what?
Jul 31, 2010 6:15AM PDT
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And the NAACP...
Jul 31, 2010 5:45AM PDT

who could have provided the full story but chose not to.


Hmmmm.. wonder why.

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ood, but....
Jul 31, 2010 5:48AM PDT

remember the (bogus) charge was that he edited the [i]video. Sooo...

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he explained it, as that he only used what he had
Jul 31, 2010 6:19AM PDT

So Breitbart has a fairly popular, and some say credible, web site... where he uses whatever video clips he can get his hands on, as long as they support his position.

Boy... doing that could come back and bite him on the but someday. Grin

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in the original post, there was no disclaimer...
Jul 31, 2010 5:39AM PDT

... there was no disclaimer that disassociated Sherrod from the USDA.

Yet the article starts out with these exact words...

racism coming from a federal appointee

The fact that he is back peddling from the very first misleading connection in his article is editing enough, don't you think?

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she worked for the federal govt in USDA
Jul 31, 2010 6:08AM PDT

So that much was true. What part did you object to or find untrue?

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Picky details...
Jul 31, 2010 6:11AM PDT

do NOT constitute "changes" as per the original charges. Oooo.. he fixed a typo!

Busted!

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his words... Context... is EVERYTHING.
Jul 31, 2010 6:23AM PDT

it was substantially more than fixing a typo, no matter how much you want to downplay it... or was his original comment that context is everything not that important after all ?

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you tell me what part I objected to.
Jul 31, 2010 6:14AM PDT

I'd be interested to see how you are reading my posts.

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I'm not sure...
Jul 31, 2010 10:43PM PDT

...I even understand some of your posts, especially when they seem to leave the subject matter, or make oblique references that are left undefined. How could I possibly know what part you objected to? I'm not a mind reader.

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Nitpicking about the "disclaimer"....
Jul 31, 2010 11:13PM PDT

when originally the charge was that Breitbart had edited the VIDEO.

Look! A flying squirrel!

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Ever hear of slander?
Aug 1, 2010 11:41PM PDT

The First Amendment goes not give you the right to deliberately slander another person, which is what Breitbart did by intentionally editing that tape to make it look like something it wasn't.

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PAY ATTENTION!
Aug 1, 2010 11:49PM PDT

He did NOT edit the tape. and there is NO indication or evidence that he knowingly presented an edited tape with the intention of slandering her. There's no case.

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RE: NO indication or evidence
Aug 2, 2010 5:36AM PDT

that he knowingly presented an edited tape with the intention of slandering her.

AND he actually believed "that was the whole tape/speech"?

What a naive little man. (Breithart is)

He presented it WITHOUT the intention of slandering her?

Yeah right!

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would you define exactly how it constituted "slander"?
Aug 2, 2010 5:44AM PDT

Is a video tape of someone speaking, when shown, a slander?

Slander would have to be something he specifically said, libel when printed, that wasn't true. If there's a disconnect it would seem to be based on time, and lack of full video, not content.

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2 parts to Eds disagreement
Aug 2, 2010 7:03AM PDT

"edited" tape and "slander"

The tape wasn't the complete speech, so it was edited...(by someone) and anyone that presents it as "what someone says" should know that (even dumb ole me knew it wasn't the whole speech).

Bill O'Reilly said he was wrong (and apologized) ....and he makes his living by "telling the truth"

What's the problem with someone that makes a post in a forum saying they were wrong?

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Definition
Aug 2, 2010 7:45AM PDT
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Libel+and+Slander

In general, there are four defenses to libel or slander: truth, consent, accident, and privilege. The fact that the allegedly defamatory communication is essentially true is usually an absolute defense; the defendant need not verify every detail of the communication, as long as its substance can be established.
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It's not really reasonable to expect that Breitbart knew she was going to reverse herself in that speech. If he had known I doubt he would have used it. The fact that it was not the whole speech is unfortunate, but irrelevant. What he posted was substantially true. He had no motive to mislead anyone.

Let's see how far she gets in court with this. Not far, I'll bet.
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LOL, she doesn't know when to shut up...
Aug 2, 2010 8:10AM PDT

...and accept victory. She's going to be like the complaining mammy in New Orleans who raised such a ruckus, and attacked a policeman at a council meeting, also shouting "shut up white boy" over and again at the same meeting and finally being charged and arrested, was after 57 years of public housing, got herself kicked out. Something "Jasper". When you got things to hide that's worse than what you're complaining about, it's not too wise to draw more attention to yourself.