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Sherrod v. Breitbart

Jul 30, 2010 10:38AM PDT
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703999304575399372790501284.html

Shirley Sherrod says she plans to sue conservative blogger Andrew Breitbart, the Associated Press reports from San Diego: "Speaking Thursday at the National Association of Black Journalists convention, Sherrod said she would definitely sue over the video that took her remarks out of context":

Sherrod said she had not received an apology from Breitbart and no longer wanted one. "He had to know that he was targeting me," she said.

Does she have a winning case? Probably not.

Ha! Good luck with that one. Ever heard of the First Amendment?

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(NT) someone probably pushing her on it.
Jul 30, 2010 11:14AM PDT
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Think so?
Jul 30, 2010 9:21PM PDT

She seems adept at jobbing the system on her own.

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Maybe, but
Jul 30, 2010 11:59PM PDT

...taking on Breitbart also means her coming under more scrutiny, if that's possible. All it takes is a different farmer claiming she discriminated against him....

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re: all it takes...
Jul 31, 2010 1:27AM PDT
All it takes is a different farmer claiming she discriminated against him....

That is all it takes now... CLAIMING something is the case.

Sad
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as my grandad use to say;
Jul 31, 2010 2:40AM PDT

"don't waste your time kicking every a**hole that comes along or you'll walk in s*it all your life".

Sherrod needs to realize he's looking smeared now and let him wear it proudly instead of trying to wipe some of it off him. I doubt she has anything to gain from it in the end and might even make those who currently condemn him start to resent her instead. She's been vindicated, more than she was smeared at first I'd say, so best to hold head high and walk away from it.

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Or evidence of another shakedown.
Jul 31, 2010 1:31AM PDT

She's already been exposed once.

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(NT) innuendo, or do you have documentation for your comment?
Jul 31, 2010 1:53AM PDT
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Oh no, we can't talk about that....
Jul 31, 2010 4:46AM PDT

doesn't fit the narrative.

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complain about the system, guys, not about her.
Jul 31, 2010 4:55AM PDT

She, and her group brought the suit to court, as any american citizen has a right to do.

Plenty of suits are rejected by the court and the Fed. This could just have easily been one of them... but it wasn't. Does that make it a "shakedown" (better defined as EXTORTION as you are using the term) as you guys keep characterizing it ?

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Ever hear of "libel" ? The First Amendment doesn't protect
Aug 3, 2010 3:05AM PDT

Breitbart from a suit for a deliberate personal attack, particularly when the video was a short edited segment of a far longer speech, and distorted her meaning which was clearly the opposite of that alleged. Additionally, Breitbart deliberately solicited an unflattering video from multiple sources and there are e-mails forming a trail.

Then there's the testimony of the farm couple who were her supposed victims and who credit her with helping save their farm. That's the video I saw.

Rob

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The First Amendment...
Aug 3, 2010 4:00AM PDT

The First Amendment line of reasoning changes when the subject of the libel is a public official.

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(NT) Not when the original incident occurred.
Aug 4, 2010 6:41AM PDT
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then you justify Breitbart, yes?
Aug 4, 2010 7:15AM PDT

If it's based on the original event's timeline, then what he said concerning it applied. If based on later circumstances, then it was out of context, but while she worked for the USDA. Which way do you want it? Both?

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It's irrelevant.
Aug 4, 2010 7:23AM PDT

She claims she was libeled when she was a public figure. Doesn't matter when the speech took place. If Senator A is accused of murdering someone when he was 16, it doesn't matter that he wasn't a senator at the time.

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You mean...
Aug 4, 2010 9:11AM PDT

...Byrd wasn't libeled when his earlier statements were recalled, and also recorded in wikipedia?

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How would that have a bearing...
Aug 4, 2010 2:12PM PDT

How would that have a bearing on a libel situation? If it was a libel, it occurred when it was published. At that time the First Amendment and the public figure status came into play.

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RE: Ever heard of the First Amendment?
Jul 30, 2010 11:27AM PDT

Ever hear of Obama?

Isn't he removing all rights?

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I do wish her luck
Jul 30, 2010 5:23PM PDT

Breitbart is an example of how the current media misrepresents everything. I'd like to see the pants sued off all of them. The media in general abuses the spirit of the freedom of speech intended by the founding fathers. They cry fire falsely in crowded theatres at every turn Sad

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What exactly did he do wrong?
Jul 30, 2010 9:15PM PDT

How exactly did he abuse the spirit of the freedom of speech? Seems to me he upheld it.

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what did he do wrong?
Jul 31, 2010 1:31AM PDT

If anything... he did a lousy job of editing his content.

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Say for instance...
Jul 31, 2010 2:23AM PDT

that Ed Hannigan said, "I am not a child molester" and he omitted the "not" when he published your statement on his blog. Would that edit uphold the spirit of the freedom of speech?

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You are implying that he modified her statements...
Jul 31, 2010 2:38AM PDT

Evidence is he did not. He presented the video as he got it, and there's no indication that he knew she was going to reverse herself later in the video. Maybe not the wisest thing, but hardly actionable. He was making a point (missed by almost everyone) about the hypocrisy of the NAACP. The video was not the major thrust of his column.

You mentioned the Founding Fathers, but if you are familiar with the newspaper exchanges often made in those days (Particularly between Jefferson and Adams in the campaign of 1800) I think you would have to acknowledge that what Breitbart did was small potatoes in comparison.

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It may be small potatoes but...
Jul 31, 2010 2:55AM PDT

they, the media, still needs to be held accountable for these increasing practices of fabricating news and painting pictures of people to portray them as someone else. And frankly, what he's done with her is small potatoes compared to the media control of our election system. The media has become the single, most powerful force in steering the election process by publishing only positive news about who it wants elected and only negative news about those it wants defeated.

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The media is being steered by its corporate owners
Jul 31, 2010 3:17AM PDT

Don't look at the editors for the source of media bias... look to those who pay the editors salaries.

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(NT) Media does need to be held accountable.
Jul 31, 2010 3:20AM PDT
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But, there's no evidence tha he deliberately misrepresesnted
Jul 31, 2010 3:21AM PDT

what she said, or was malicious or racist (as some have charged) in his piece. Stupid, maybe...

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There's plenty of evidence of the media's guilt...
Jul 31, 2010 3:46AM PDT

look who we got for President.

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I agree on that point....
Jul 31, 2010 3:52AM PDT

I just disagree about Sherrod.

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"stupid maybe"... Maybe?
Jul 31, 2010 4:22AM PDT

Quit making excuses for the man.

If he wasn't being deliberate in his actions, then he was incompetent... but then he has been posting his site for too long to not know what he was doing... which means in his eagerness to prove his point, he was willing to take what he was given, which he initially rejected months before (his original explanation) to paint Sherrod (and by association, the NAACP) in a racist light.

Or was it the NAACP and by association, Sherrod? The association he was making depends on which time he has addressed the subject.