She might as well stay home?

which is a crime, UNLIKE most of what the "hate speech" does. Same as Sharpton inciting a riot that lead to killing innocent people.

not in my book, i wonder why it is in yours...

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Obviously, he is using hate speech against the KKK, in a thread that condemns hate speech. If you're against one person's hate speech you have to be against all.

How is it in your book? Okay to use hate speech against those you hate, hmmmm?

You know...KKK=hate, against KKK=anti-hate

What about white separatist? Do they equal hate? Do black separatist equal hate? Does personal choice of association equal hate? Does segregation equal hate? Does forced integration equal hate? God hates. He says there's any number of things he "hates". Does that make God wrong too?

Hate is an attitude, a frame of mind, one that might be there all the time or only come forward under certain circumstances, and that latter might be anger over an unjust situation that was witnessed or suffered.

Just as the bible says faith without works is dead, also hate without works is dead. The hate that counts is the hate that manifests itself in violence, and the violence is the crime. Actions count, not words.

that doesn't justify using hate speech against them, if the hate crimes law is to be followed.

The law is crippled by such contradictions. It sacrifices freedom of speech for political correctness.

Why do you get so upset when politicians lie?

That's just a way to sidestep the basic question I asked with carefully crafted word construction. Let's look at the question I asked and ask the same thing applying it to another group and see.
I asked:
"O.K, 'Promoting hatred against any identifiable group would not only be considered inappropriate, but could in fact lead to criminal charges.'.
Does that mean that if somebody were to give an anti-KKK speech, it could lead to criminal charges?".
O.K., let's change the group, still keeping the basic idea the same and ask the question again.
Does that mean that if somebody were to give an anti-Mafia speech, it could lead to criminal charges?

My thought is that you are side-stepping by misquoting the law in question.
Again, the story said "Promoting hatred against any identifiable group would not only be considered inappropriate, but could in fact lead to criminal charges.". The Mafia is an "identifiable group".
I will admit, in a way, race enters into the Mafia question, as they don't take in non-Italians as "made" members.

Maybe, but they are a criminal group, possibly classed as an illegal organisation in many states, (I don't know for sure), and so I very much doubt that talking against "The Mafia" is going to get anyone prosecuted. If it was, you would probably see every District Attorney in the US prosecuted for incitement to hate.

Not a good analogy.

Mark

He's trying to get someone to say something against the Mafia, and get them whacked.

is that "hate speech"?

Perhaps in your world

James "Jim" Keegstra is a former public school teacher in Alberta, Canada. In 1984, Keegstra was charged and convicted of hate speech, a conviction that was overturned by the Court of Appeal but re-instated by the Supreme Court. The decision received substantial attention internationally and became a landmark Canadian legal case.

However, Canada now owes him reparations for having violated his civil rights to freedom of speech.

#reparations for having violated his civil rights to freedom of speech#

##In December 1990, the Court upheld Keegstra's conviction, ruling that the law's prohibition of hate propaganda and suppression of Keegstra's freedom of expression was constitutional.##

so why reparation??

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In fact, laws against speech is one of the biggest causes of underground movements that begin to grow. Actions are increased to "ferret out" the members of such groups and then reactions to the authorities begin. Yet, all could have been avoided simply by letting someone blow off at the mouth and be ignored by others. If you have an employee and don't like what he says, then fire him. Obviously they did.

Court decision notwithstanding. It is an unfair law.

that's your opinion James, but is he being payed
reparations according to your opinion?

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I'm talking Justice. It's above law.

There's a man with a gun over there?

...who put him there, and incarcerate him in a secret location for the next seven years. Now THAT would be Justice. When someone steals your years away after stealing your rights away, take some of theirs.

I don't think he feels that way, since he said

I'll certainly be careful not to offend anyone

He must of had a change of heart, prison must do that to some people.

But since he was expressing an unpopular opinion he was screwed. I the group he was slandering was one that people tended to dislike (say, the KKK ) it would have been okay?