She might as well stay home?

I've always demanded my girls never bring home a report card with less than a "B" on it. Why? Because the grading standard they use now means a "C" is what a "D" used to be when I was in school.

1960-1970
A = 95-100
B = 88-94
C = 80-88
D = 70-79
F = 69 and below

2000-2010
A = 90-100
B = 80-89
C = 70-79
D = 60-69
F = 60 and below

The dumbing down of America hidden behind depreciated grading scale. So, if you see a kid passing with a C grade average, just remember 40 years ago he would be a "D" student, and any "D" student then would be a Failure now.

IF they did they would be charged and there would be no reason to speak out against them, because they would be on trial and justice would be done.

And if they didn't...why bring them up?

As usual, you have a problem relating to the question.

Does that mean that there would be no reason to speak out against a group like like the KGB,if they never gave a speech in Canada?

NO!

Run with it...Next question

I would make an exception.

The KKK should be hounded to extinction. We do it well with animal species. I think we should apply that to the KKK.

Mark

The KKK was founded in my state. They still have a '"convention" marked by a parade every year. Their numbers are dwindling as they are not given the attention they once were. They are ignored by the townspeople. They now have something other to join.

The bad news is other groups are growing in size and influence. They attract former KKK members, They are a little different in that they hate everybody and everything, and violence simmers. Some of them call themselves a militia. They are well financed and well armed. Over the past year was an arrests of 2 local men for platting to assassinate the President.

Angeline

You may need the militias one day, if not you, then those younger who will be around longer. After all, they are more constitutional than any police department, than any standing army (read how the founding fathers felt about that!), and the best last defense against rogue govt (domestic enemies) which fails to administer true Justice. People are too used to hearing the word "gangs" when they should be hearing "revolutionary armies" using the drug trade to push their own agenda. I'm encouraged to see the increased anti-gang activity in California, but we need more of it everywhere, especially along the border states, and in some big cities.

Or could we include the "black" congressional caucus? Did you notice in that walk they alleged hearing "N" word, in which NO VIDEO OR SOUND RECORDER of the many there recorded such. They did the walk as a segregated group? Weren't they deliberately trying to stage an event? Maybe they had plants in the crowd that were supposed to yell those things, but weren't able to get close enough, but going on prior knowledge it was supposed to occur they made the claims anyway. I guess segregation is good for some, not for others? "Let's march all together as the black caucus over to vote on the health care bill". Oh, the hypocrisy of it all.

And that's what we are actually dealing with, hypocrisy. Some speech is more equal than other speech? This is why people need to quit with the PC type speech and start calling a spade a spade instead of pretending it's a diamond.

...acts of hatred vs words of hatred. Someone can come up to another and call them a racist term, but only if they physically harm that person should be be an act of hatred punishable under law, and that only to the extent of the act, without regard to the motivation. For instance if someone calls you a name and then hits you in the face, that should receive the same as someone who thinks they've been called a name and have an excuse then to punch that person in the face. Same crime, same penalty.

Why would anyone do that?

It's YOUR hypothetical

they not only used the words, but performed the acts. They murdered, raped, assaulted and all the other things against the people they were inciting hatred against. It was always too late for the victims then.

Remember Charles Manson? He is still in prison of course, but if by some miracle he was released, and began again the preachings and the words of hate that he employed in the 60's, do you really think that 'nothing should be done'?

In Manson's case, waiting until the "Manson Family" physically hurt someone was too late. Those victims would have much preferred action had been taken to stop Manson before he killed them.

That is not difficult.

Even inciting people to perform crimes (ala say, Al Sharpton) is a crime if it results in criminal behavior.

But saying nasty things or expressing hateful opinions is not a crime in itself. Saying, for instance that the Holocaust did not happen is expressing an opinion, but I don't see how it can be a crime unless it somehow causes someone to commit a crime.

The right to free speech exists to protect ALL speech, not just popular speech, otherwise it is useless. Speech that everyone agrees with needs no protection.

are all too often used to incite hate, and that hatred all too often turns to violence. The KKK is, yet again, a case in point.

Despite protestations of free speech, I would still be quite happy to lock these up, and throw away the key. It's less violent that what they would do to their victims.

but not always? Again you have tot be able to make a distinction between words and actions.

since you can tell the two apart. That is my point.

Yes, in my world we have free speech. If you prefer oppression, you may have it.

I just don't like free speech that promotes hatred and incites violence.

It seems we differ there.

Mark