Thank you for being a valued part of the CNET community. As of December 1, 2020, the forums are in read-only format. In early 2021, CNET Forums will no longer be available. We are grateful for the participation and advice you have provided to one another over the years.

Thanks,

CNET Support

General discussion

SENATE VOTES ON NATIONAL LANGUAGE

May 18, 2006 11:29PM PDT

The United States Senate, known for taking forever to pass any meaningful legislation, seems to be on a bit of a tear lately. Yesterday Senators voted 63-34 to make English the national language. It's about time. Actually, they didn't exactly use the words "national language." Instead, they chose to call it a "common and unifying language." Whatever.

This is a start. If you want to come to the United States and be a part of the culture, you should have to learn English. For too long, we have coddled people who expect to come here and continue speaking Spanish. So now we have English being taught as a second language. We have signs in both English and Spanish. And who can forget the most annoying thing of all: when you call a customer service line, being told to press a button if you speak English.

In fact, before you are granted citizenship into this country, you should be given a simple language test. If you cannot demonstrate your ability to speak the native language, you're out. Go home, learn English and then try again. It really is as simple as that.

its very true learn/read english to become a citizen

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

Discussion is locked

- Collapse -
I could care less what he thinks of mine ...
May 29, 2006 1:47AM PDT

... his Pulitzer is a prize. Big whoop. Doesn't give him one extra ounce of credibility on the issues involved in English as an official language.

It's another point where "enlightened" liberals can point fingers at others and call them names is all. Nativist is now the latest slur from your ilk. Sad

- Collapse -
That's funny...
May 29, 2006 2:05AM PDT

it's still a really foolish piece IMHO. See my commments below.

Pulitzer has been devalued practially to zero by the way.

- Collapse -
I would love to know what this guy ....
May 29, 2006 3:48AM PDT

... actually knows about the disadvantages that immigrants who don't speak the common language of this country face. That even the majority of the Hispanic immigrant population supports English only education and English as an official language because they see and understand first hand what bilingual programs do to keep them down.

Pulitzer schmulitzer.

Evie Happy

- Collapse -
This guy could have a...
May 29, 2006 5:47AM PDT

...Pulitzer and even a PhD but that alone DOES NOT make him an intelligent and worldly person. That mainly has the propensity to teach you and realize how much there is ''out there'' that you DO NOT know...an attribute that has obviously passed you by...the amount of formal education you have is inversely proportional to how much in totality you REALLY know. And if you don't believe that last statement, just ask a Middle or High School student just how smart he thinks he is.

- Collapse -
Reminds me of the "cool kids" in high school
May 29, 2006 7:32AM PDT

If they thought someone was cool then the clingers also thought that, and many of the uncool strove mightily to be "talked to" or included in something, ANYTHING, that the cool kids did.

Never been one for going as the popular wind blows.

Evie Happy

- Collapse -
...but what the "uncool" kids need to...
May 29, 2006 10:31AM PDT

...indelibly burn into their memory...and a basic axiom of the animal kingdom...Eagles DO NOT soar with Buzzards...Lions DO NOT "hang out" with Hyenas.

So, a comment on, "Never been one for going as the popular wind blows", my Mother told me many times, Jackie, (I was 'Jackie' in the family), you are a 'loner'"

- Collapse -
A rather narrow, foolish view...
May 22, 2006 5:48AM PDT

He doesn't look at the other side. Different languages are sure to fragment and divide.

Using his example of blacks and whites, the fact that the case of the underclass could be argued in a language the society as a whole understands is extremely effective in changing minds.

Contrary to his claims, NO ONE is trying to stop Telemundo from broadcasting or to stop anyone from speakng Spanish, French, Urdu or whatever. No one thinks English is going away in this country, but it IS going away in some places and that is a problem. People NEED to be able to understand one another.

No one is trying to legislate language; just to make it clear that the language of business and commerce and civic functions in the US is English. It is much better for everyone for there to be one language for these purposes and in the US that language is English. There's nothing "nativist" about it; it is just sensible.

Too bad the writer is more intersted in being clever and critical than actually providing a thoughtful analysis.

- Collapse -
"Official language" or "national language"
May 29, 2006 11:31AM PDT

Those choices are the only ones acceptable to me. "Common and unifying language" sounds wishy-washy.