Senate OKs Border Fence, Backs Citizenship

They would have to be on our side of the border. What happens when an American civilian or border patrol officer trips one?

over, theres a wall and then theres a fence hmmm where to put the mines?
ill let you think about it.
but as you havent any experiance in war, or defence of an area ill help you out.

you put the mines between the wall and fence
and in spanish and english you post

warning MINES!
now there wont be any body walking in that area who belongs there unless you climb over the wall from the other side, and there invaders boom 1 less invader.
now when they see were serious they wont enter unlawfully.

.....you think their government will just sit back and do nothing?

I'm not against securing the borders but I am against killing people over this.

there invaders we must use all we can to hold back this enemy

...are not "invading," Mark.

I agree that Fox is giving this issue a lot of lip service but not really doing anything. A big reason for that is that the illegals send a lot of money back home. The Mexican economy would suffer if that stopped, so he's trying to play both sides on this.

unlawfully are invaders
if they arent legal its an invasion.
there breaking the law.

movements of this sort, where a significant amounts of people move into another country and set down roots have been called "invasions" An invasion does not have to mean armed troops attacking a country. It IS an invasion of sorts.

None of the solutions being discussed currently will solve the basic problem long term, which is caused by the fact that Mexico is horribly mismanaged. I proposed that the US take over the northern provinces, even temporarily and try to spread some of the prosperity that we have to Mexico. I doubt anyone will take me up on it, but it WOULD solve the problem.

let there government stop them instead of hellping
fox is just as guilty as them

Send an army to invade us?

Whoops! They already did.

It's time to start treating this invading country as an invading country.

Cut off all aid.

Shoot the invaders, shoot to kill.

Any captives should be placed in POW camps until Mexico is ready to stop sending people over here to break our laws, illegal entry being just one of them.

Maybe a little carpet bombing of their border cities would get them to realize that we mean business.

If Mexico complains, move the carpet bombing further south. After all, what are they complaining about? That we object to their people entering illegally and are asserting our right to protect our borders? How dare we.

....and I'll blow their mother%$#@ing brains out!"

Ahhh....America.

dosent say come her and break the law.
but thats ok you said your grand mother did break the law i can see your on law breakers side

but ill stick to upholding the laws of our land

I just don't happen to think that bombing Mexico is the answer to the problem. In fact it would probably make the problem worse since it would make conditions in Mexico even worse than they are now, and people would be scrambling across the border to escape the bombs.

Yes, my grandmother jumped ship and considering what she was trying to escape from, it's hard to blame her. Read up on the Pogroms sometime before you judge.

and i lost so many of my famially to the germans.
remember thet usa refused to let in jews.

but the mexicans arent being killed by fox. or do you have proof other wise?

but then again i beleave in protecting my homeland from all invaders to bad you rather roll over and talk spanish

.....you don't consider this insulting at all:

to bad you rather roll over and talk spanish

I never said or suggested anything of the kind (though there's nothing wrong with learning some Spanish -- my 3 year old goes to a bilingual preschool and loves it). All I said is that killing people is not always the answer to a problem, Mark.

comeing in unlawfully you do whats needed to keep out

and if there on our side of the boundry unlawfully and set off a mine its there own fault.
eneter legally.

if a person comes trew my door with out my permision ill stop him by any means thats legal including lethal force

and as to rolling over its not an insult josh your just wouldnt defend your country.
your views seem to be a pacifist.
pacifists lose

...that there are only two ways to address a situation:

1. Kill people.

2. Do nothing.

That's too bad.

you dont understand self protection whos fault is it josh if a law breaker which these people are climb/enter our country unlawfully step on a mine?
not mine theres. crime dosnt pay.

Have them enter my country legally, become citizens legally, and respect the laws and customs of this country.

Do not send me your criminals! My country already has too many of those.

Send me your criminals and I'll blow their M@!#$%@%^@ brains out.

Invade my country and I'll advocate burning yours down.

and dogs inside the wall. No need to feed the dogs, the invaders will do it for us.

Seems like a rational plan to me. The thing is to have them documented.

to stop them entering unlawfully.

were supporting enough of mexico allready
let fox stop stealing from his people