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Selection of Camcorder with Vista home

by cnetrookie / January 23, 2008 5:33 AM PST

I have a dell inspiron 1720 with Vista Home edition. Like many of the threads I have read- we have a new baby and I am looking for a camcorder priced under about $600. I am most interested in a HDD. I called Dell and asked what camera works with Vista and they recommended the Sony DCR-SR200 Digital Handycam 40GB HDD Camcorder. What are your thoughts on this camera? I am a totally rookie and not sure if we have a firewire, but we do have a USB port. Are there any other HDD camcorders that you would recommend? Also, where is a good place to purchase? I am always looking for a good deal, but it seems like there are quite a few web site scams in the camcorder market. Thanks for your help!!!

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re: Selection of Camcorder with Vista home
by funkhouse9 / January 24, 2008 12:00 PM PST

I had posted a similar question a couple days ago and was looking at going with a hard drive too. With some further research, I am now leaning in a different direction that I'll share with you since we seem to be in the same boat with the same thoughts. As a side note, Sony's site shows the SR-200 priced at $799 (over your stated $600).

I'm now leaning toward the Sony DCR-DVD810 which records on DVD's, has 8gig of flash memory built in (115mins of high quality video, 170mins in sp, 325mins in lp) and a memory slot to add more. Although the specs on this one aren't quite as high as the SR-200, it is seemingly better than the hard drive recorders in the under $600 range. If you're really trying to stay under $600, you could go this route and have room for expansion. I like the thought of flash because it's less likely to get damaged if dropped or fail for some other reason. I think right now an 8gig memory stick is $150 which will eventually come down. I know there is a 16gig on the way.

The SR-200 definately looks to me to be the better choice of the two, but it's also a lot more $$$. 40gig sounds exciting, but I also wonder if I would ever really fill that up (9 hours @ HQ). Perhaps you would.

I'm not really very knowledgable on all this, but I am a father-to-be on a budget, trying to do my research and not wanting to shell out a lot for junk. Hopefully this is helpful to you.

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If either of you have any expectation
by boya84 / January 24, 2008 3:02 PM PST

to edit video or otherwise get video onto your computer, PLEASE do not go the DVD camcorder route.

I refer you to the posting in the camcorder forum on the DVD cameras...

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There are also new camcorders that just came out...
by netx5 / January 24, 2008 10:26 PM PST

The website for the Consumer Electronics Show features new camcorders for '08, including the Canon FS10, which has 8 gig built-in flash memory and can also record to SDHC cards and the Panasonic SDR-H40 that has a 40GB hard drive and can also record to memory cards...

Both are under $500.

http://www.ces-show.com/camcorder/

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Vista
by cnetrookie / January 24, 2008 11:39 PM PST

Can I assume the new camera's all work with Vista?

I too have heard that the DVD camera's are not the way to go.

My other concern is the format of the videos- can HDD cameras export in .avi's or just .mpeg's?

If I were to go the DV route- what is a good one priced in the $300-$400 range that works with Vista? I know the Canon HV20 has been recommended a ton, but is a little pricy. Thanks!

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From what I can tell,
by boya84 / January 25, 2008 7:35 AM PST
In reply to: Vista

the Vista "compatibility list" seems to be lining up like this:

If the computer has a working firewire card, then the type of miniDV tape camcorder does not matter - connecting the miniDV tape camcorder's DV port via Firewire 400 cable to the computer's firewire 400 port will work. Period. As well, when transferring stills from the memory card, USB is used. Do not connect USB and firewire cables to the camcorder and the computer at the same time. Use USB cable or firewire cable - not simultaneously. MiniDV tape still provide best available video quality using DV or HDV storage to the digital tape.

If the camcorder is hard drive or memory card based transfers are done using USB. For the most part these should work - but there could be some driver issues. There are some exceptions to this - some JVC hard drive camcorders use Firewire for transfers. This is likely a bigger issue with the low-end camcorders and low-end versions of Vista. AVCHD continues to be immature (for hidef HDD and memory card camcorders).

DVD camcorders would have the disc inserted to the computer's drawer loading DVD drive and the video files being ripped to a format that can be used by a video editor. Video quality is poor. Do not buy DVD based camcorders.

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check this site out - Sony DCR SR200 under $400
by Rocky in Philly / January 27, 2008 12:24 PM PST
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Update
by cnetrookie / January 28, 2008 4:08 AM PST

Well, we went with the Sony SR200 HDD camera because I went to Best Buy and got it on clearance for $499- (the manager neg. it with me...I didn't know they do that) anyway, we haven't tried it yet, but he said he has the same camera and likes it. Also, that he uses it with Vista and has no issues. we'll see

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$499?!?!?!
by funkhouse9 / January 28, 2008 6:18 AM PST
In reply to: Update

Was it marked down on the display in the store? I ask because it's $759.99 on their site. If I even had a chance of getting that model for that price, I'd head over there now. Sounds like you got a huge bargain!!

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Best Buy
by cnetrookie / January 28, 2008 10:10 PM PST
In reply to: $499?!?!?!

Yes, $499. The manager at BB said that all of the items with yellow tags were on clearance(and negotiable)- the Sony HD-SR200 was marked $679 (or around) as the clearance price. He asked me how much I would be willing to pay and I said that I heard that the camera went as low as $500 at Amazon which I read in another thread on this site. So he said - fine...who knew?

Go there and ask to speak to the manager and see what you can do- the manager told me that they need to make room for all of the new cameras coming in - by the way, I should mention that I purchased the display model.

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re: Best Buy
by funkhouse9 / January 28, 2008 10:24 PM PST
In reply to: Best Buy

I'm sure you got it so cheap is because it was the display model. Even so, that's a great deal!!! In any case, I may have to stop by my local Best Buy to see if I can get a similar deal.

Congrats on your new baby!

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It is the Sony SR200 HDD...
by cnetrookie / January 28, 2008 10:12 PM PST
In reply to: Update

Just to Clarify, I purchased the Sony SR200 HDD

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Please don't fall into the trap!
by whizkid454 / January 28, 2008 6:38 AM PST

Search the forum with the words: "techondigital"

I'll be really saddened if I see another fish get lured into the seemingly "good deals".

Sigh...........

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