Seeking advice on a LCD monitor

Thanks but I prefer a direct answers. I've been to the thread you pointed out but I couldn't get back with any precise answers to my questions.

Anyway thanks again

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About the same in asking about monitors and video cards...

DVI see this link

Man! Here are my 2 questions again:

1) What's your opinion about the monitor ("SAMSUNG 915N") as a whole? Is 8ms good enough for hardcore gaming and movie watching? Do you recommend any other 19" monitors for that usage?

2) That monitor lacks a DVI. Being a newbie at this stuff, I need to know what "DVI" is and what advantage it gives.


Please.. I don't need external links. I'm in a hurry as I said before. External links are more informative than I actually need. Just give me the simple def. and if it's recommended or not.

to try to get answers re the 8 MS for gamers.

How can anyone help you if they don't have that monitor?

In general, Samsung makes very good LCD monitors. In fact, in Korea they replace a monitor if it has a single dead pixel. One magazine said they would offer that in the US. I was ready to buy that exact monitor. Called Samsung US and they said that they had no plans to offer such in the US. To make matters worse, even though newegg says 8 dead pixels, Samsung says that for the 19 inch screen, their policy for replacement is ten, yes TEN dead white, or FIFTEEN dead black.

However, if they can offer replacement for only one dead pixel, one might think that there production runs end up with very few dead pixels.

Have you gone to http://www.newegg.com and looked at that model and the reviews that people have made???

Re your DVI question;
The standard output from a video card to a monitor, for years was an anlog signal [connector type is D-sub]. Since the input to the card was digital, there was obviously a digital to analog conversion required for CRT type monitors. The only type for many years.

LCD monitors are basically digital devices, so then many video cards added a digital output {DVI], but CRT monitors still used analog, and the analog connection was all that was available on millions of existing computers, so LCD monitors used analog.

Eventually the video cards added digital output and some of the LCD's added digital circuitry. For that case there are NO analog to digital conversions involved. Thus one would think that the video would be better, but you read OZOS input in the link that I gave you, and you may decide that it isn't worth it.

I just bought a 17 incher with both analog and digital, with 10 ms response, however I am not a gamer at all. I am running it analog now but will go to digital in a couple of weeks. [only paid $206.99 for it from newegg]

Interesting fact, due to the way that LCD's are built. Both the 17 inch and 19 inch LCD's use a native resolution of 1280 X 1024, in order to fill the screen with the same number of pixels on a 19 inch monitor it uses larger TFT's [pixels, a pixel is actually three TFT's [Thin Film Transistors], a Red a BLUE, and a GREEN., so in one way you get gypped with the 19 inch.

Finally someone replied with a bit of accuracy! Thanks, Ray Harinec. But here are few more points..

1) Yes, I've read the users's reviews at NewEgg. The LCD actually got an excellent grade and every single customer was satisfied. I just came here to seek 'professional' recommendations.

2) I got a bit mixed up in the analog-to-digital thing. So I need to ask you 2 straight quesions:
- Is DVI superior to Analog? or is it just a type of connection?
- If I got an LCD which lacks DVI, what ports would my video card have?

3) Regarding the 17"-19" issue:
You mentioned that both the 17"er and the 19"er have the same pixel density, but the 19"er gets the pixels stretched. Now, would images look stretched too or is it just a matter of size (images would look larger. but with same quality and density of a 17"er images)?

To Question 1: Yes, 8 ms is impecable for a LCD monitor...anything higher than that is tougher for gaming tho...may give ghosting

To Question 2: I can't give u an educated answer, so I won't give u an answer at all

why DVI MIGHT/SHOULD be better than analog. Simply because the digital to analog conversion is not required. However in the link I gave you, OZOS said it is only slightly better. In this thread, Yewanchors says definitely DVI. Allow me to say that both of them are highly opinionated along with their knowledge. Just look at OZOS's response in your video card thread, as he tells you to ignore the others. [maybe rightly. LOL].

I'm colorblind, and I have not run my LCD using the DVI port yet, so I really can't comment. Additionally, I have never played a game on a computer, so my opinion would be useless. That's why I posted in the Computer Help forum to ask people to help you here. Really suprised that OZOS hasn't hit here yet.

The 19 uses larger pixels so that there is no blank areas on the screen. I probably should not have mentioned it becuase you will never see the difference.

Where you may run into "blurriness" is if you have to run the game at a much lower resolution than the native 1280 X 1024. With LCD monitors, when run at less than the native resolution, the only way to fill up the screen is to spread out the pxels using actual calculated color values to fill the screen and then for the thousands of unused pixels use a software algorithm to artificially create colors for the "unused" pixels. Some people don't notice the difference, some say the pictures get blurry. Probably depends how low a resolution that you use with respect to the native. [This is totally different than using CRT monitors.].

Also in your thread about video cards, and running games at this resolution you may need to shell out more money for a video card. Read OZOS post closely.

I only posted to you originally because no one else had for quite a while. I really am not the one to follow on this issue.

Yewanchors said that the response time is divided vertical and horizontal. I believe that he is incorrect. The issue re response is the fact that one can turn a solid state device [TFT as an example] ON much faster than one can turn that device OFF. For a while the mfr's specced both on and off time, but now they give the sum of the two. For the 8 MS it is likely 3 On 5 OFF, maybe 2.5 ON, 5.5 OFF.

Re question 2 second part, your video card will have an analog port. If you search in newegg for cards and select 1 for D-sub and 1 for DVI, they will only show cards that have both type of ports on them. Probably the ones you are looking at will have,either both, or an adapter that you can use either. Most of the ATI cards come with the adapter. I needed one of each because I am running two monitors.

as long as we're talking V8's. Inline 4's would be honda ofcourse.

yewanchors mentioned that DVI LCD's are better. Any thoughts about that?

After reading Rays post re: I posted this in computer help... It sounds like the "conversion factor" may have been the hold up and possibly why gamers preferred CRT's? I dont know but would still recommend checking in at a gamers forum.

If I remember correctly a lot of the problems arose during drawn out prolonged "intense" game activity.

Sorry for not reading Rays post "before" my previous post!

Ken

Okay, now that I've read DVI is better - even if just slightly - I'll go for a DVI LCD, as I'm not buying a LCD everyday.

So, I have to forget about the Samsung 915N (8ms) and think about other choices. What monitors in the ($350 - 8ms_12ms - 19in) range would you recommend ?

Is 19" really a big difference over 17" ?

A 19" has approx 173 sq" of viewing area, a 17 has approx 121. Thats 42% more viewing area. Get the 19" with a contrast ratio of no less than 700:1. imo

larger pixels in order to fill that area, so the gain in not really that effective as far as creating a screen. They both use the exact same number of pixels.

Check the article by former ZNET forum Moderator Alfred Poor, in PC Magazine. It just points out that other than physical area one gains nothing else towards picture quality.

was thinking about, that has D-sub and DVI.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824116347

But I bought the 17 inch Polyview 10 ms for $206.99 and free shipping. It has both D-sub and DVI

For you, I would say, stay with the better known names. Viewsonic gets good writeups, and Samsung seems to make good products in all types of computer hardware.

I thought about this one, but... I'm still undecided as the SAMSUNG 915N worths the same except it's a 19" (but not DVI) *hitting head in the wall*

go to OZOS profile and John Robies profile. They each allow emails to be sent to them. Send them an email asking for their explicit reccomendation regarding those things that you are pondering.

If you want, you can include your email in the text to them to have a direct dialog. If you don't want them to know your email address, they will NOT get it when you email through the profile.

Or go to some gamers forums to ask.

..but I don't want to bother my dad with more than that. I have a good CRT actually, but I always wanted to get a sleek LCD. So I waited until they've begun to be approved by gamers.

what you do and if you are happy with it after some use.

You know that even if this thread has gone to the second or third page by that time, it will pop up to the top of the page when you make a new post in the thread.

Best of luck with whatever you do.

outputs, two analog or one analog and one digital if you get a monitor with digital input, you can run both of them side by side and compare gaming.

Prices of 8ms LCD's will dramatically go down in June or July, when 4ms LCD's will fill the market. I'm not sure if this is right or not. Could you clarify anything regarding that?

I'm not much of a gamer but I have Flight Sim 2k2 and 2k4. Both run great on the 19inch Acer I got from Walmart.com... I have broadband and watch a lot of video and the quality is excellent... $329 in Feb.