Security measures

Hi! I have asked two Q on here so far and hope this is my final one. Happy You've all been great.

I have a lot of Q to ask since I need to cover all that is required to be sure I have a clean network since I have bought a new laptop(old one needed replacing anyways) and a new router.

Please, be patient with me and humor all my Q. Grin I'd appreciate a speedy reply and, if possible, detailed replies. I really need to get this over with.. I'm in a really bad place now and you have no idea how much I need to get this done now and properly.

Here they are:

1. I do not know how the whole ISP thing works. Is it enough to change laptop/ router to make sure all is clear or do I need to change IP address or sth? When I think of the internet connection I think of the cables and the attachment to the phone line(???). I think it is ADSL. ( bear with me Grin) Is there ath I should do about those or ath else that isn;t router/lap to make sure I have a clean connection(A CLEAN EVERYTHING)? Or my IP address?

2. I have to install the new router. I was thinking of letting my brother use the old one with his lap and with the desktop(he uses a cable there to connect to the router). Would this be troublesome?
If I keep the new(my)router's username and pass and wifi pass to myself and enable a guest option he can use(someone told me their is a guest option) would that keep my PC and personal router(PR-get it?:p) from possible infection or intrusion? I know there is a guest option for wifi, but connection via cable? The cable would be on his router-the old one, but he still uses the same network..
Or, am I going about this the wrong way.. If I we have separate routers, we have separate passes and usernames and wifi passes? If not, is there a guest option for connection via cable?(dreaming..)
Does having my own router keep me from any other influences if someone uses the same network as me, but from another router?

3. This will sound paranoid as hell, but if indeed someone is monitoring me, can they do sth now with the info I;ve given here- that I have a new lap and router, to somehow reconfigure sth network wise or sth that would make buying and all this useless and enable them to have access to the new router., to do sth to the network or w/e. (use your imagination, I know I do Grin)

4. What are the security measures I need to take with my new lap/router?
I bought an Acer with windows 10 OS installed(so I was told). I need AVG and Spybot? Anything else that is important?
As for the router, I need to install it(I have a manual, guy said shouldn;t be hard) then change username, pass and wifi pass. What else is crucial for starters?
Disable remote assistance(or sth) on PC and router?
Check if firewall is enabled on router?

If you have read all of this and have the patience to answer all, I would be eternalllyyyy grateful. I;m in a really messed up and impossible situation(irrespective of the net thing) and this would mean the world to me.

Thanks in advance,


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About 1.

Almost no ISP will respond to "Hey I want to change my Internet address." This is pretty much a dead end as far as security goes. However let's say I wanted to get to the Internet but not directly use my ISP's IP.

How could we do that? Answer! Use a VPN. Now doing this is documented on the web so I'll stop here but repeat it would achieve your IP change and more.

2. Expensive. To use two routers where each has their own Internet doubles the cost of the service. I don't see many doing this. This is why folk just use one router per home.

3. If you feel this way. Time to go with a VPN.

4. In your case I think you are headed straight to a VPN solution.

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Thank you!!!

I figured as much for the provider.
I assume that I can download a VPN in my country. I just hope I can find a decent one..I'm in the process of googling.

If I get a VPN, that covers all? ALL? (:D) All as in:
It covers the entire network problem? Even if my router is used by other possibly infected devices or the network is infected or the router gets infected, I am covered with a VPN?
What about my laptop? If it has good antiviruses and I have a VPN, any attack, cuz of a compromised router/network or any malware(a link I click or sth) can;t harm it? (that is what I gathered from your reply to Q 4)

Is it possible that the solution could be so simple?

Thanks again!!!!!!

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What a VPN is and does

Is on the web so anything I write is a summary. The VPN does provide a system where it won't matter if they know your Internet IP since the communication is inside the VPN or "tunnel." The most they can do is mount a "Denial Of Service" attack. But remember that what a DOS attack is, is on the web so I don't write much about that.

In your case, with your concerns, I think you should go with a VPN.

Choose carefully since some log what you do. You can ask for No Log VPNs to start.

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A simple yes I hope :D


With my concerns you mean:
If I get a VPN, that covers all? ALL? (:D) All as in:
It covers the entire network problem? Even if my router is used by other possibly infected devices or the network is infected or the router gets infected, I am covered with a VPN?
What about my laptop? If it has good antiviruses and I have a VPN, any attack, cuz of a compromised router/network or any malware(a link I click or sth) can;t harm it?

Not just the IP address part?

I know you have a lot to reply to and need to keep it short, but if I don;t want for eth I do to be useless so I need to make sure.

Thank you for your patience.

If it isn;t too much to ask for you to look at a couple of VPNs and see which you find most fitting?

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By your concerns

I mean across all your discussions. I get the feeling that for you, you want to move to something pretty iron clad. While I can't tell you that our governments can't see what you are doing or such, it's about as good as it gets while avoiding the move to something like I use overseas.

What I used on travel was the Tails OS. It's quite secure but too much for everyday users. But I thought I'd at least bring it up for those that want to research security short of unplugging from the Internet.

Your First link shows ExpressVPN is the only one that has no logfiles.
Your Second link adds NordVPN as a no-log VPN service.
Your Third link is just their web site.
The Fourth link is another VPN that claims no logs.

Not sure which you would want from me about this. I never choose a person's VPN. That's up to you. I only write to keep to no log VPNs since this is all about security and privacy.

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Spell it out for me :D

So I need not worry about infected devices using my router, or my router compromising my laptop if I have a VPN?
I guess you need to spell it out for me.

If it is not so, do different routers have to have different IPs or can they just use the same network? If they use the same network can I keep mine secure anyway. I ask this if no is the answer to the above Q.


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Sorry but all this work from all your posts.

Do not reveal that you have "infected devices." Why would you infect these things? Are you trying to test security ideas?

As to your different routers, I can't guess what your goal is about having two routers. If I guess and I could be wrong it is so your other user has their own network and won't be on yours. That's expensive as you'll have to have another ISP to serve that other router.

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I did not infect any devices.. :)
I meant if my brother's device or desktop possibly have an infection and use my router. Would this affect me if I had a VPN?

So each router needs it's own IP and someone to attach it.

If I don;t have a different network and share a router, is there anyway of making the shared router and laptop secure from other devices also using said router?

A guest option could be a solution? I have read sth about giving a different wifi pass to guests than the one you use. Can this possibly work for a connection via cable to the router also(for devices that aren;t mine and could possibly be infected), not just wifi? To make a guest option on my router for both wifi and cable connection to router from devices I don;t personally use. By this guest option I would separate myself from other devices I dont use(brother;s etc).

I need to get this done in the next 2-3days.

I won;t ask anymore Q.
Ty. Grin
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About the effect on the VPN.

An infected machine would be cleaned up. You would not allow such on your network. No one will tell you what an infected machine will do as trojans, malware and all those things have such a long list of what they have done that no one can type that in here.

As to the shared router, a guest network is probably best.

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OK. Guest option it is. My brother will probably want to use the desktop so he will need the ethernet connection..

I guess I can;t do ath. If devices I don't use are infected and use the same network, the VPN and antiviruses and new router are useless.

I can get him to probably use the guest option.. so that should cover his PC and cells. I guess I'll have to think about the ethernet and desktop.
If I enable the guest option, my network is safe from viruses(coming from possibly infected devices I don;t use using the same network?

I should find time to run a good antivirus on the desktop. He should have good antiviruses on his PC, but cells I highly doubt. But, if the network/router was indeed compromised so could have his devices.

Thanks. I just saw your response..

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I answered a similar question recently
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Devices I don;t use personally within the house that could

be infected is what I meant. I clarified above.

Ty for the answer!

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in such cases it's better to use VPN and clear cache as often as possible.

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I agree! it's a must especially nowadays people tend to use internet everyday, everytime.

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