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Securing Harddrive

by tyrantiger / July 18, 2004 9:05 PM PDT

i have been clicking between coputer hardware and window xp for ages, and finally decided to post here becoz this is more like a "inner" question.
anyway, i've got 2 harddrives on my coputer, one 80GB and another 40GB, on the 80GB oone, it's good that you've got your own folder which only you could access. But i'm just wondering if there's a way to make a harddrive only accessible to me? It's the 40Gb one, it's a secondary, if you need more infos, pls say so! Wink

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Re: Securing Harddrive
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 18, 2004 9:47 PM PDT
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Absolutely. BUT there is some danger that without care, all that is on that drive can become inaccessible if one doesn't backup needed items. For example EFS (which is documented in Start, Help and Support so I will not explain what it is) can secure your files. But some will not follow the procedure to backup credentials and then crash, reinstall the OS and wonder why they can't get at their files. This is in the XP Pro OS.

Both HOME and the PRO version have NTFS which will provide lightwieght protection with ownneship and permissions. Again, it's in Start, Help and Support so there is no need for me to duplicate that information.


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Re: Securing Harddrive
by tyrantiger / July 18, 2004 11:17 PM PDT
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sorry, R. Proffitt , but i dont really get what you mean, i went to start, help and support. And then what do i do? my intention is to make a hard drive "invisible" to other users other than me.

thanks for the previous help anyway.

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That's a different question.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 18, 2004 11:24 PM PDT
In reply to: Re: Securing Harddrive

To hide the drive's files is one thing.

To hide the drive letter is simple to accomplish with TWEAKUI, but is easy to uncover.

If you don't want to use EFS or NTFS or research such, please write so. Some are looking for "step by step" and will not want fishing lessons. I don't hand out fish. But will offer solutions and where the fish are. It's a simple matter that I can only copy/paste two sentances from Help and Support without reference. This is not my rule. It's best that we learn how to learn?


So here we have the conundrum and new questions.

1. How airtight must this security be?

2. Will TWEAKUI's drive letter hiding from Explorer be good enough?

3. Will NTFS permissions to the Drive and files be sufficient?

You need to answer such questions.


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Re: That's a different question.
by tyrantiger / July 18, 2004 11:38 PM PDT

DOnt know if i've had explain myself properly, since my explantion is becoming a chaos, i think i'll just tell the whole story. I've got 80 and 40 gb for my comp, and another friend will be coming to my house and live for a period of time. I'm just wondering if i could do anything to forbidden the 40gb hard to him and only let him access and use the 80 gb one with me.
Sorry if my explation doesn't make sense...........

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NTFS would do fine for most.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 18, 2004 11:50 PM PDT

You didn't tell how airtight the security must be.

NTFS won't hide the drive letter, but you can forbid access to the drive with NTFS.

Add in EFS (which only works on NTFS) and it's very airtight, but the danger is that you may not backup the CREDENTIALS and lose all that is on the drive due to the slightest burp...

Yes, I read your story. And I've offered 3 levels of security with notes to research each in Help and Support. TWEAKUI is the lowest level tweak and about as secure as an unlocked door.

Seems you have ways to do this now.


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Re: NTFS would do fine for most.
by tyrantiger / July 19, 2004 12:03 AM PDT

ok thanks for the help Rob, nowi've got another problem, i dont seem to be able to find the option to use sytem restore, it's not in my start menu, and i've use search on "restore" and nothing comes up. Just where could i get that program from?

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About SR.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 19, 2004 12:12 AM PDT

If SR goes missing, try the most common cure and then make a new post if your search of these forums doesn't find the long discussion about.

If I type XP SR.INF into the article I would read is

Disregard if that error message is not your error message, the common fix is to perform the noted procedure.


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Three methods and a crude anology.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 18, 2004 11:53 PM PDT
In reply to: Securing Harddrive

1. TWEAKUI drive letter hiding.

A closet door with no lock.

2. NTFS permissions to drive and files.

The closet door has a good lock.

3. NTFS with EFS.

The closet door has a good lock and inside is a fireproof safe.


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Re: Three methods and a crude anology.
by tyrantiger / July 20, 2004 7:28 PM PDT

thanks for all the help, and sorry for replying so late, didn't get the chance to get conencted. anyway, i'm still searching for the cure to make my "system restore" icon availible on my computer. thanks anyway.

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Did you read the reply About SR?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 20, 2004 9:47 PM PDT

It noted the most common cure for that issue.

If it didn't work, then do tell. As it stands I can't tell if you tried it.


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Re: Did you read the reply About SR?
by tyrantiger / July 24, 2004 7:59 PM PDT

sorry, i didn't get a chance to go onto the internet til now, anyway, system restore is fine, but for the tweakui, it works as well, but it isn't very effective.

so i would like to have more details for the other options you gave me step by step (if possbile), My main goal is to put space limit to other users than me, and forbidden them to access my 40gb harddrive.

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Sorry. No step by step.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / July 24, 2004 10:42 PM PDT

I can give guidance, but my choice is draw the line at step by step.

I hope you understand.


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