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Scary, Scary, SCARY

May 13, 2006 12:03PM PDT

Some political prognosticators would have us believe that Nancy Pelosi is ?campaigning? for the position of the Speaker of the House should the Democrats regain the majority in November.

The Speaker of the House is second in line to succeed the Presidency should the President become incapacitated.

To me, the term ?President Pelosi? is beyond frightening.

For the record, although a registered voter, I am not a member of any political party.

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Addemdum:
May 13, 2006 2:33PM PDT

Just watching/reading the news, this country is crying for ''leaders''. IMO, Pelosi is a dyed in the wool ''rabble rousing party politicker''. I recognize no leadership ability toward the needs of the country.

As an example, the House Intelligence Committee has been briefed on every surveillence program that the NSA has initiated. Pelosi is a member of that committee. When the recent leak of classified information was made public, she condemned the program and demanded investigations. If she opposed the program, where is the record of her opposition during her oversight responsibility as a member of the committee. Or does she not attend committee meetings.

During a televised press conference yesterday, a reporter asked Pelosi if she had been briefed about the NSA surveillance program. She hesitated, then said she had, but she didn't understand fully what was going on...... Duh !

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Two reasons why it well might not happen, Mac;
May 13, 2006 7:54PM PDT

IOW, why this isn't 1994:

1. For better or worse, even more Congressional districts have been gerrrymandered to protect incumbents. These days, the way change is increasingly effected is for an incumbent to lose a primary challenge with the primary winner then going on to win the November general election. The incumbents' self-preservation instinct has resulted in challengers of the opposite party to have it much tougher than in 1994.

2. In 1994, the Republicans had an electorate that was angry, a platform for change (the Contract with America) and the financial wherewithal to run creditably in November. In 2006, the Democrats maybe have the same amount of anger in the electorate. However, besides their seething rage at and hatred of President Bush and the Republicans, I see no clear statement of principles coming from them as to where they would take America under a Democrat controlled Congress (with the exception of more taxes and spending our money the way they want to instead of the way Republicans have). True, there are those Democrats who are trying to develop such a plan, but by and large they're the same ''centrist'' (read: only moderately socialist) Democrat Leadership Council types who were swept out of party leadership in favor of the John Dean/MoveOn.org types. As we saw in 1998, rage and anger alone does not a winning electoral strategy make. And given that the DNC has spent the vast majority of the money that it has raised, there are open questions whether Democrats have the cash necessary to run the type of well-funded campaign that will be needed to regain control of either house of Congress.

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Mac, we all have our little irrationalities, and our fears
May 14, 2006 12:19AM PDT

over possible successions. President Dan Quayle looked pretty frighthening, but you can take heart that no Speaker has ever taken over as President yet. President Jerry Ford was about as far from an elected President as we've gotten yet. In fact compared to that, a Speaker promoted to President is more democratic.

I will forbear from mentioning the name of the most nightmarish President I could think of, who actually took power, but I bet you can all guess.

Rob

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(NT) (NT) Millard Fillmore? ;-)
May 14, 2006 12:35AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Taft !!!
May 14, 2006 1:02AM PDT
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No, those were American Presidents...
May 14, 2006 1:41AM PDT

not Canadian.

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American Presidents
May 15, 2006 3:56AM PDT

Canadian Prime Ministers

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So what?
May 15, 2006 4:03AM PDT

what's his name was zinging Bush

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what's his name was zinging Bush
May 15, 2006 4:05AM PDT

And?

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(NT) (NT) And nothing. Same old thing.
May 15, 2006 4:35AM PDT
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and,
May 15, 2006 7:49AM PDT

he was zinging Bush again

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(NT) (NT) I know. It was a joke.
May 15, 2006 4:34AM PDT
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I would say it's a tie
May 15, 2006 8:30AM PDT

Between Mao Tse Tung and Joseph Stalin.

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If the Dems do win,
May 14, 2006 9:09PM PDT

do you think anyone will have the "balls" to challange Pelosi, or will it be a typical rubber stamp election?

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I hear there's a movement to replace her ...
May 14, 2006 9:10PM PDT

... I oppose that movement. She is a terrible leader but speaks to what the Democrats real agenda is!

Evie Happy

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Well, with a little luck,
May 14, 2006 9:12PM PDT

there will be a savage battle and they will only wound themselves some more. THANK GOD Dean is running the party

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Re: If a president dies, just who would get the reins?
May 15, 2006 2:02AM PDT
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Go here.........
May 15, 2006 12:34PM PDT
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(NT) (NT) Yes, but what about Mexico?
May 16, 2006 12:28AM PDT
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AFTER we figure out.....
May 16, 2006 6:27AM PDT

....how to keep OUR DOGS in OUR YARD, then, and only then, should we attempt to criticise or tell our neighbors what to do about theirs.

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Pelosi will never get job
May 15, 2006 4:48AM PDT

too weak, no stage presence, even the dems know that.

me: independent/libertarian voter

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I'm neutral, of course, but
May 15, 2006 9:17AM PDT

isn't she the hottie? Happy

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(NT) (NT) now that was scary
May 15, 2006 9:31AM PDT
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scary ... Scary ... SCARY!
May 15, 2006 8:46PM PDT
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2nd Amendment Foundation on Pelosi , et al.
May 15, 2006 1:27PM PDT
http://www.saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=184

?The hypocrisy here is staggering,? said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb. ?Feinstein, Schumer, Pelosi and others are having fits about the NSA?s possible invasion of privacy over telephone calls, but they?ve never had such reservations about mining gun trace data from federal law enforcement agencies, or demanding other invasive measures against law-abiding gun owners.

?For years,? he continued, ?gun owners have had to submit to federal background checks to buy firearms, and more invasive checks to legally carry handguns for personal protection. To all the people who are now voicing alarm over the NSA revelations, all I can say is ?Welcome to the party?. Now they know how gun owners feel.?

Mark
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Not only that....
May 15, 2006 8:53PM PDT

But the Census, the IRS and the Social Security Administration aer all more invasive and collect far more personal data. This is a purely political "issue".

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(NT) (NT) Thanks for the news flash
May 15, 2006 10:28PM PDT
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And you'd be comfortable with President Hastert, Mac?
May 15, 2006 11:20PM PDT

Talk about your political nonentity -- he's the least accomplished speaker in generations. One of his major qualifications for the job was his willingness to play second fiddle to the now rightfully disgraced Tom DeLay.

-- Dave K, Speakeasy Moderator
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