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SAW A 1080P DEMO AT FRYS "BAM" "BAM"

Mar 30, 2006 11:20AM PST

Hooked up to a small box mabey some sort of hard drive. And the picture quality was out of this world, So it seems that you folks who own 1080P sets are in for a treat when you add a new blue ray player and I assume they will also look great on 1080I t.v.s

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small box is harddrive hooked up through firewire
Mar 30, 2006 11:48AM PST

and firewire is the only way you can get 1080p signal to that tv. hdmi with hddvd or blueray will only be 1080i when it goes into the tv through the hdmi port.

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MR. MASTER KNEW THERE WOULD BE A FLY IN THE OINTMENT
Mar 30, 2006 12:35PM PST

You are sure rite I checked the set up at frys and they were using firewire to a mitshibishi d.l.p. set. My toshiba is advertised as a 1080P set bull any one question I di have an input that says Ieee1394 The manual is not clear what its for? I do know that if I can get a good 1080I picture using blue ray I would be happy. Thank you so much for the information stewart

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Stewart, 1eee1394 is a firewire connection.
Mar 30, 2006 12:46PM PST

I use this to play my camcorder on my big Pioneer and record to DVD. D

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MR DENNISOUND THANK YOU SO MUCH
Mar 30, 2006 1:11PM PST

I just looked it up in the computor, Well if this blue ray takes off my monster 72" toshiba shouild really knock your socks off have a nice nite stewart

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I got homework for Stewart
Mar 30, 2006 2:05PM PST

Stewart,

Since you like going to Fry's so much (and I have no clue what Fry's is), I'm assuming it's an upscale electronics store much like Tweeter or Myer-Emco in the DC area (where I am), I've got some homework for you....

Please take a digital camera (I'm assuming you have one) and take some pictures of the setup at your camera's highest megapixel setting. I'd like to see what this setup looks like connected to the pc you guys are talking about. If the connection is being done through firewire I'm just curious to find out just how it looks.

Also, IEEE 1394 is Firewire, and so is i.Link

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Fry's would like you take pictures!!!
Mar 31, 2006 12:18AM PST

I know I worked there.
I have seen this demo at FRY's,,, People will be dissapointed if they get that set home and expect to see the same image quality. John

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My 2-cents on Fry's
Mar 31, 2006 2:20AM PST

Fry's is a supermarket of mish-mash products. Computers, refrigerators, washers, home theater, car audio, misc crap. I call it "Open Box Frys" because I swear every product they have on their shelves has been opened or repackaged after a return and put back on the shelves. At least this is the way my Frys is. A lot of Frys have a theme to their stores. In Burbank, 1950's Sci-Fi is the theme. There is a flying saucer smashed into the store that overhangs the entrance, and inside they have giant ants (from the movie "Them"), the giant robot (Gort) from "Day the Earth Stood Still" and other funs stuff. They have a diner in the back of the store where you can order food and sit in booths made from '50's cars and watch a large projection screen that shows '50's Sci-Fi movies. This projection screen was good for about the first 6-months, then in typical Frys fashion, the projection system went out of whack and for 5 years now it's looked like crap. This is typical of what has happened to Frys...everything on the shelves looks like it just survived an earthquake (jumbled, nothing in order, upside down and open). Personally, the only thing I go to Frys for any longer is odd-ball cables, plugs, etc. Imagine Best Buy after a riot. That is Frys.

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i agree
Mar 31, 2006 5:53AM PST

its like a costco....its got everything you need....but it is quite hard to find. the whole store is one big warehouse with good deals

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Interesting!
Mar 31, 2006 3:22PM PST

Thanks fellas for sharing the knowledge on Fry's. I've never even heard of it (somehow I kinda feel hungry now thinking about a jack-in-the box, since we don't have one in the DC area, lol)

Correct me if I'm wrong but, I thought the firewire ports on some of the new hdtv's were there for Dv (video cameras) applications and some audio as well (sacd), is this correct? How could they get a blu-ray signal through ilink ?

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MR. MASTER MORE INFORMATION
Apr 1, 2006 7:58AM PST

You may be correct. But I looked up Sony Style on there site and got this information. The Sony BDPS1 delivers full 1080P output thru h.d.m.i. I also saw a picture of the back panel and there was no firewire connection on it. + dont see how a 4 pin firewire cable is going to give you 1080P and firewire is for camers Anyway the proof is in the puddin stewart

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Firewire is a video interface!!! It will do other also.
Apr 1, 2006 8:27AM PST

It has a bandwidth of 400mb/sec, more than enough for 1080p/24,30,60. john

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The newer stores are different
Apr 1, 2006 8:12AM PST

Bigger, cleaner and no themes.
All big box stores have a similar problem, getting knoledgable people. But they do pay commision, this is good and bad, for many reasons, most of which have been disscused before.
I was there today, saw a Samsing 65" 1080p DLP with the little box suppling the video, yes it looked GREAT!!!
The problem is that when you get it home iyt won't look as good since you don't have the same source material.
They also had a mockup of the Toshiba HD-DVD player there, I asked one of the sales people where the real ons were and I wanted to see a demo. He said they didn't have them yet,,,Hmmm sizzle, no stake.
When Fry's opened the BB store 1/4 of a mile away did a complete remodel of the Lombard store, hired a buch of boys in blue. John

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4674 YOU ARE CORRECT
Apr 1, 2006 5:28AM PST

But what I cant figure out is the 1080P demos are hooked up with firewire? I contacted Magnolia and severel other hi-end home theater stores and was told that the new blue ray players WILL PASS THRU A 1080P SIGNAL TO YOUR 1080P t.v. USING A H.D.M.I. CABLE I HOPE HAVE A NICE DAY STEWART

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lol, youre still not getting the point though
Apr 1, 2006 5:46AM PST

yes, blueray and hd dvd will have the capability of outputing 1080p through HDMI.

yes your tv has a native resolution for 1080p.

BUT your tv is NOT capable of receiving a 1080p SIGNAL through HDMI. it is only capable of receiving the signal through firewire.

when you hook up blueray to it through HDMI, your picture will still look good.....but it WONT be true 1080p. it'll be 1080p out from dvd player, 1080i the moment it enters the tv, and the tv will try to convert it back to 1080p.