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SAT writing test

Feb 22, 2004 4:09AM PST

An interesting take on the SAT essay test. According to the interviewee the Unabomber might have scored higher than Shakespeare, Hemingway, or some other well known writers.

Would Shakespeare Get Into Swarthmore?

Consider the following quote and its grade:
Writing, at its best, is a lonely life. Organizations for writers palliate the writer's loneliness but I doubt if they improve his writing. He grows in public stature as he sheds his loneliness and often his work deteriorates. For he does his work alone and if he is a good enough writer he must face eternity, or the lack of it, each day.

For a true writer each book should be a new beginning where he tries again for something that is beyond attainment. He should always try for something that has never been done or that others have tried and failed. Then sometimes, with great luck, he will succeed.

How simple the writing of literature would be if it were only necessary to write in another way what has been well written. It is because we have had such great writers in the past that a writer is driven far out past where he can go, out to where no one can help him.

Reader's evaluation: Although it displays a solid vocabulary, Mr. Hemingway's essay lacks specific examples and clear topic sentences. Too undeveloped to be good. Grade: 3 out of 6


Mr. Hemmingway would surely be surprised that this text from his Nobel Prize acceptance speech would be rated so harshly.

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I find all this fiddling with the SAT ...
Feb 22, 2004 9:43AM PST

... to be very sad. Any time the schools fail to produce better students it's somehow the test's fault in properly assessing their knowledge. I think Admissions boards get enough information, and always have, with the timeworn application process. I'm not a huge fan of SAT's as a sole measure, but they are not. Factors like GPA, extracurricular involvement, an admissions essay and/or recommendations are also considered. I didn't do as well SAT wise as my IQ would predict for example. And at the next level I outperformed many who scored 750+ on their SAT's. So is/was the SAT a perfect measure? No, but neither is the essay, the recommendation, the GPA, etc. Usually taken in total they paint a pretty good picture.

Evie Happy

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The SATs are quite good at one thing ...
Feb 22, 2004 7:10PM PST

One of the commentators I saw/heard on this made what he thought was a profound observation: The SATs are very good at predicting admission to an elite college.

It seems to me that comes in the "Well, Duh" category. SATs are a major factor in the admission process for a majority of colleges, so OF COURSE they are highly correlated with admission decisions.

Silly me, I thought the point to the SAT was to predict success at college, not admission to college. However, as you pointed out, they don't always do a good job of predicting college success.

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I hope you meant
Feb 23, 2004 5:53AM PST

750 per half? I mean, 750 overall score is extremely low.