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Sarah Palin addressing the Conservative Party of Canada

Mar 8, 2010 11:13AM PST

"Sarah Palin's weekend admission that her family once travelled to Canada to receive treatment under the public health-care system she's so often demonized prompted skepticism and ridicule Monday among her critics in the United States.

"My first five years of life we spent in Skagway, Alaska, right there by Whitehorse," "

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/100308/health/health_us_cda_palin_health

This is very peculiar, since she claimed during her Gubernatorial Race that her parents took her brother to Juneau on the ferry for this same injury. Whitehorse makes more sense than Juneau (closer, faster treatment) but the whole thing is very strange.

Rob

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They had to pay didn't they?
Mar 8, 2010 2:44PM PST

If they weren't a citizen, then they pay?

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Much ado about nothing...
Mar 8, 2010 8:18PM PST

but so many lefty blogs are having a tizzy over this it's not funny. So they went to theh most convenient place to get emnergency medical treatment? And she's NOT making an ideological issue about it. If you were in Francea and you got hurt wouldn't you go to a French hospital, regardless of how you felt about the French healthcare system?


Sheesh!

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I didn't quote a lefty blog, I posted a news story, and aske
Mar 9, 2010 9:34AM PST

d indirectly if the two stories made sense to you, or did they damage Ms. Palin's credibility?

Rob

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Not a credibility issue
Mar 9, 2010 9:43AM PST

Just a mistake, either earlier or now.

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(NT) Wow. What a convenient opinion. If a Democrat .... RTB
Mar 9, 2010 10:10AM PST
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what Democrat do you know....
Mar 9, 2010 5:12PM PST

...that anyone here or maybe anywhere in the political world, has made anything about their kindergarten year? This whole crapola from the ultra liberal left about this seems stunningly stupid and unbelievably desperate.

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PDS...
Mar 9, 2010 8:12PM PST

Palin Derangement Syndrome, pure and simple. Emphasis on "derangement". Mention her name and the usual suspects go mental.

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I remember when
Mar 9, 2010 8:48PM PST

They derangement went the other way, and she was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and she was a shooting star.

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No comment on the fact
Mar 8, 2010 8:30PM PST

that she seems to have 2 different stories, about her brother "the firewalker"?

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(NT) two different occassions maybe?
Mar 8, 2010 9:08PM PST
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Stupid brother?
Mar 8, 2010 9:10PM PST

Fire HOT?

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(NT) child SMALL?
Mar 8, 2010 9:13PM PST
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No supervision?
Mar 8, 2010 9:36PM PST

Result.....2 trips to hospital..about 100 miles each time

Parents LACKADAISICAL?

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(NT) You aren't a parent?
Mar 8, 2010 10:33PM PST
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OK it's no one's fault/responsibility
Mar 8, 2010 11:19PM PST

The kid is smart and enjoys burning himself and the parents enjoy watching the kid get burned and they also enjoy driving 100 miles each way to take him to the hospital.

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(NT) This sub-thread is closed. :-(
Mar 9, 2010 1:41AM PST
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Yes, I expect they did have to pay, just as they would in
Mar 9, 2010 9:30AM PST

Juneau. My point, since you seem to have missed it is the peculiarity of two different stories delivered in her attractive forthright manner. That's not a slur incidentally, she is attractive, and she is forthright, but I don't know if she's truthful. She seems to tailor her remarks to her audience, regardless of the substance or absence of substance in the incident or argument has.

Rob

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two stories
Mar 9, 2010 9:40AM PST

Well, all the silliness over the hospital used is just that, I suspect as a child she has gained memories that over time crossed with other memories and occassionally causes a memory burp. It's also possible that her earlier statement was in error and after speaking with her parents who noted the mistake, she now gave a correct account. I'm sure others, same as myself, have asked parents to help with childhood memory to better place it, the circumstances around it, etc. I don't see it as deliberate dishonest, especially since there's nothing to gain from it, more likely a memory she mentioned once that was later corrected on the hospital location by her parents. Should she continue to give the same incorrect account later then?

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The left fears Sarah Palin to the core of their souls.
Mar 8, 2010 8:20PM PST

Demonize? It's the left who is demonizing Palin. How can anyone criticize her for what her parents did when she was five years old? The only answer is that the left fears Sarah to the very core of their being, and will do anything in an attempt to destroy her. Their efforts are doomed to failure.

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(NT) She's going the same way as Conan?
Mar 8, 2010 8:32PM PST
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This will destroy her ?
Mar 9, 2010 12:48AM PST
"The only answer is that the left fears Sarah to the very core of their being, and will do anything in an attempt to destroy her."

LMAO

Can you be anymore hyperbolic ?

Palin could take this as an opportunity to say that her experiences with canadian health care made he realize - at the age of 5 - the vast superiority of the capitalist, free market health care system of the USA.

Devil
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If you read it you would see...
Mar 9, 2010 1:25AM PST

There was NO claim that this would destroy her, only the statement (TRUE) that the left would do anything to destroy her.

A very different thing than what you claim.


Man, the unions have really devastated the education system in this country!

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OMG Ed, I was addressing DJC's comment
Mar 9, 2010 2:04AM PST

You try reading for a change...

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And...
Mar 9, 2010 4:22AM PST

I was addressing YOUR comment.

That's allowed here. It's a public forum. What is wrong with my reading? At least I understood it.

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(NT) Not playing you childish games today. good bye
Mar 9, 2010 5:15AM PST
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Not playing...
Mar 9, 2010 5:25AM PST
you childish games...

Don't want to play childish games, don't start any.

-chuckle-
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(NT) Thus sub-thread closed, as well.
Mar 9, 2010 9:46PM PST
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But that is not the argument she made. What she said was
Mar 9, 2010 9:46AM PST

that her family had made use of the Canadian system. You are jumping off this issue to push your belief that the Canadian system is terrible. You're wrong, but you're entitled to your opinion. But you can't use Sarah Palin as substance for that opinion, or the perceptions of a 5 year old child that the Canadian system is bad, because that is not what she said. It appeared to me that she was trying to convey a sort of cameraderie with Canadian Conservative Politicians by saying that her family had experienced and I assume was grateful for the availability of closer, quicker transport to a medical facility.

It isn't a big thing except that she has voiced two conflicting stories about the incident. That is very strange, and does go to her credibility.

Rob

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(NT) what are you talking about, Rob ?
Mar 9, 2010 9:48AM PST
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Suggest you read the original and subsequent articles
Mar 9, 2010 10:23AM PST

on what she said at the Conservative Party Convention (?Caucus). What I did was to discuss logically the difference between what Ms. Palin said, and what was advanced as a suggestion here, that Ms. Palin should or could use this instance to discuss the superiority of the American system.

"Palin could take this as an opportunity to say that her experiences with canadian (sic) health care made he (sic) realize - at the age of 5 - the vast superiority of the capitalist, free market health care system of the USA." Sure she could have, but she didn't, so why advance the argument? It is complete disinformation; you are advancing the argument not she; she advanced no argument, so you can't use her to bash Canada or its Health Care system.

Rob