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Samsung UN65KS8000 picture settings and HDR notes

by katzmaier CNET staff/forum admin / June 28, 2016 12:29 PM PDT

Review:
http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-unks8000-series/

Related products:
UN49KS8000
UN55KS8000
UN60KS8000

Calibration report using these settings:
[see link below]

TV software/firmware version tested: 1112

Below you'll find the settings I found best for viewing the Samsung UN65KS8000 in a dim room via the HDMI input. Your settings may vary depending on source, room conditions, and personal preference. Check out the Picture settings and calibration FAQ for more information.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9996461-1.html

Calibration notes: Prior to calibration the UN65KS8000's Movie mode delivered the best quality for my dim room, with solid color accuracy albeit a slight tendency toward blue, and a brighter image than my 40 fL target. I reduced the light output and tweaked the color temperature to remove blue using the two-point controls.

Gamma was still a bit uneven, but when I tried using the 10 point system to compensate it was ineffective. The controls didn't consistently change the grayscale without very large adjustments, and even then the readings fluctuated from one to the next. As a result I gave up on the 10 point system and stuck with 2. I also didn't adjust the color management system since it was quite accurate to begin with.

I ended up improving the image a bit, but overall the difference between my default Movie mode and post-calibration wasn't major.

Picture Settings:

Picture Mode: Movie
Special Viewing Mode: [Game and Sports modes: Off]
Picture Size: 16:9 Standard

Expert Settings menu:

Backlight: 5
Brightness: 45
Contrast: 88
Sharpness: 0
Color: 50
Tint: G50/R50
Apply Picture Settings: All sources
Digital Clean View: Off
Auto Motion Plus: Custom [see below]
Smart LED: Low
Film mode: Auto1 [grayed out for many sources]
HDMI UHD Color: [All Off*]
HDMI black level: Auto [grayed out]
Dynamic Contrast: Off
Color Tone: Warm 2
White Balance: [see below]
Gamma: 0
RGB Only Mode: Off
Color Space: Auto

-- Auto Motion Plus submenu:
Blur Reduction: 10
Judder Reduction: 0
LED Clear Motion: Off

-- White Balance submenu:
(2 point)
R-Offset: 0
G-Offset: 0
B-Offset: -3
R-Gain: 0
G-Gain: 0
B-Gain: -4

-- 10p White Balance submenu:
10 Point: Off

*The HDMI UHD Color setting is for 10-bit sources like the UBD-K8500 4K Blu-ray player. Unless you have one connected, leave it turned off.

Here's more detail from Samsung:

"UHD Color is essentially a switch that allows the user to setup the TV to match the source material being sent through the HDMI ports. For 2015 Samsung TVs, this feature must be turned ON if the HDMI input is receiving a 10 Bit signal. For 2016 TVs, the TVs will automatically detect the signal and enable this function automatically (because the UBD K8500 is the currently the only UHD Source on the market). When other UHD sources become available, this feature needs to be turned on to process 10 bit and higher signals on Samsung TVs.

An HDMI connection HDMI UHD Color set to OFF supports up to UHD 50/60p 4:2:0 input signals, while an HDMI connection with HDMI UHD Color set to ON supports UHD 50/60p 4:4:4 and 4:2:2 input signals

For SUHD models [like the KS8000], each HDMI connection can be individually optimized for HDMI UHD Color. For UHD models please use HDMI In 1 port."

HDR Notes: I measured HDR using a beta workflow supplied by Spectracal, makers of the CalMan software I use for SDR calibration, along with beta firmware for my Quantum Data 780 signal generator. Since the state of HDR evaluation is still in its infancy, take the results below with a grain of salt (or ten).

On a side note, I've recently acquired more HDR test gear and software, and am gathering information on correct HDR evaluation methodologies all the time. I'm hoping future reviews will require fewer grains of salt.

As for this review, I conducted my HDR tests in the default settings for Movie mode using the Native color space. The Auto color space setting correctly recognized the P3/DCI colorspace for the HDR signals sent by the Samsung K8500 4K Blu-ray player, but I had to manually use Native with my generator. I also set the HDMI UHD Color control to On.

The KS8000 measured well overall compared to the Samsung UN65JS9500 and the LG 65EF9500 OLED with an HDR10 source, and very similar to the excellent Sony XBR-65X930D. Its grayscale errors were lower (better) overall than the Sony's, hewing closest to the ST2084 (PQ) EOTF target, although there was a spike in the 80 IRE range (the Samsung was a darker than the target). These measurements are far from bulletproof, however, so don't put much stock in them.

I'm more confident in the color measurements I took. The KS8000 covered more of the DCI/P3 color gamut than any set I've tested so far (93 percent), and registered good results for P3 saturation (delta error of 4.0) and color checker (3.0). The Sony was a bit better in the latter two tests, but the Samsung beat the LG and JS9500 handily in both.

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HDR+
by Miklaq / August 20, 2016 2:41 PM PDT

Hi. Just got a 65ks8000. What do you think of samsungs new HDR+ setting?
I know it's not true HDR but it does add some punch.

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Football
by toyoytatech21 / September 3, 2016 3:38 PM PDT

Got the tv. It's as impressive as my 8 year old plasma, but I can't seem to tune into football games very well. Charter digital box, HDMI in. Sports mode on or off the video always seem out of focus. Any video setting for sports? Football? Collage or nfl

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Football settings
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In reply to: Football

Hello! Did you get a response regarding the football settings? Or figure out optimal? I'm having similar problems. Things are a little unfocused and sometimes blurry. I also get some frame stuttering that catches up To regular speed. That's the best way I can explain it. Tough watching the DIRECTV 8 game mix. Thanks.

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In reply to: Football settings

I cannot tell you how frustrated i was with this tv after my first sunday and trying to watch football! i have directv as well and i FINALLY figured out how to fix it. First, go into your setting in the directv box for display and resolutions supported and UNcheck 1080i. Next, on your box, you should have a touch button for "res" Manually hit this button til you get to 720p. The other thing i did (but dont think it was what fixed the football issue for me) was plugged the DTV box directly into the tv and not through a receiver. But like i said, its the 720p setting. Fox broadcasts still look terrible, CBS isnt too bad and NBC look great. NFLN isnt too bad either. Hope this helps. I almost took this TV back cause this but am VERY happy with it now.

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Nice job
by Culton1 / September 6, 2016 9:02 PM PDT

Thank you .

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Can't I get tech advice re settings?
by TVwidow / October 4, 2016 11:02 AM PDT

Just purchased and had installed this beautiful TV.... However every now and then a message pops up saying "check connection / check source" despite programme displaying fine behind the message?

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Solved...
by Skoobz2001 / November 18, 2016 12:00 PM PST

Had this exact issue - turn off Anynet+ on your tv. It will solve the issue. No idea what to do if you NEED it on.

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Problems with the screen on a brand new Samsung UN65KS8000
by ni_epsillon / October 5, 2016 8:47 AM PDT

Have you ever seen tis on a tv panel.
I just got the Samsung UN65KS8000.
I can only see that in the amazon prime app and slightly on YOUTUBE.
Should I send it back?
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Problem with the screen
by ni_epsillon / October 5, 2016 8:55 AM PDT

Have you ever seen this on a tv panel.
I just got a new Samsung UN65KS8000.
I can only see that in the amazon prime app and slightly on YOUTUBE.
Should I send it back?

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HDR and UHD Question
by Breakdown13 / November 11, 2016 6:45 AM PST

Do I need to have UHD Color on is I am streaming Netflix from the same source my cable box is hooked up to? What about HDR content? Thanks in Advance!

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Forza Horizon 3 fix
by thesmyster / November 20, 2016 9:51 AM PST

I was trying to play forza horizon 3 with hdr on this tv with my xbox one s and the picture looked dull and grey. I changed the display setting but nothing really worked.
I turned off my xbox and pulled the power cord out and pluged it back in and it worked!
So if you have a dullpicture with forza, pull the power out from the xbox to completely shut it off and try it then. Lookslike its a bug with the game or xbox.

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