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Samsung TV - playing files over wifi

Jan 17, 2013 6:09AM PST

Hello everybody.
I bought a UE40D6500 3d Samsung television about a year ago and I just spent $450 on a NAS server and a good router so that I could play my blu-ray files over the internet instead of having to unplug my hard drive and then plug it back again, which is very annoying especially when you don't have anything better than a USB 2.0 port that takes forever to load.
So I tried to stream MKV files but, of course, he did not work. I had heard from a friend that you could change the extension of the file to .avi and that would be enough to make it work. The problem is that when I do that the file just disappears. I tried to turn off the tv and turned it back on again but did not work. I changed the extension back to .mkv and the file came back after a quick check.

Does anybody know what to do? I feel very frustrated as I have spent a lot of money on this (I'm a film major).
Thanks a lot for your time!

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typo
Jan 17, 2013 6:13AM PST

it did not work*

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Just updated the Samsung networking post. Lots o'tips.
Jan 17, 2013 6:17AM PST

Top post at http://forums.cnet.com/7723-7589_102-378511/samsung-owners-start-here/?tag=contentBody;threadListing

New one specifically about those pesky router firewalls at http://forums.cnet.com/7726-7589_102-5412417.html?tag=posts;msg5412417

But I'm left to guess if this is a network issue or an encoding issue. Let's me put this on a line all its own.

-> What encoding plays on USB does not mean it will play over a network connection. !!!!!

That fact has caused a lot of folk grief. Again, this is not a PC so the decoding is limited.
Bob

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Yes but
Jan 17, 2013 6:26AM PST

Hello,

Thank you for your answer. I should have added that I can play mp4 without any problem whatsoever, and I can access my MKV files but it just won't play them, and only when I change the extension that the files just disappear.
Everything I've found online is that changing your file to a .avi is the solution, I can't find anybody who's had this issue before, everybody seems to agree that the .avi extension thingy works, so I'm even more frustrated.

I would doubt that it's a router issue since it plays every other file, but I tried to play my MKV .avi file after shutting down the firewall but the problem persists.

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Then the encoding looks to be incompatible.
Jan 17, 2013 6:30AM PST

I see you have the firewall and more out of the way but again. I repeat...

Encoding matters. MKV is NOT AN ENCODING. It's a CONTAINER. Renaming it might or might not work. You've tried it and see the results.

Take a MKV that works and look at its encoding (I use various tools like VLC PLAYER or MEDIA INFO.)
Now transcode the MKV to that encoding and it should play.
Bob

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Bob,
Jan 17, 2013 7:46AM PST

Thank you for your reply.

I transcoded a Matroska Video MKV file into a .mpg using mkv2vob and it does seem to work now, but I wonder if there's another (easier) solution? Cause that means that I will have to have a copy of all my blu-ray files in another format... a blu-ray file is already huge (12gb minimum), so that means that each film will take 24gbs of space (+ the long hour it takes to transcode) sounds like a bit of a hassle, doesn't it?
And I've tried the .avi solution with all my MKV's from different sources and in different sizes and none worked, I find it hard to believe that it's not something else that's causing it? My friend who has the same kind of tv has never had any problems streaming from his PC (he is not using a NAS like me though).

Thank you again for your time,
N.

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Sorry if I was unclear.
Jan 17, 2013 7:52AM PST

USB playback decoding does differ from over the network. I don't want to repeat that discussion. One is not the other and if you press Samsung on this they point you to the manual which lists the encodings they support.

Since MKV is a container you can put MPEG in there as well (but may have little size effect.)

You say MP4 worked so why not try more of those?

And a tip. I use HANDBRAKE a bit but there are far too many transcoders for me to know the one you like.

And a nod to media players. I use a few and my favorite is still ... laptop ...
Bob

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Jan 17, 2013 5:28PM PST

Hello,

I know that USB playback differs from WIFI playback, I meant that my friend was still streaming over the wifi (dlna) but directly from his PC. I have a Mac so it's a bit more complicated cause all dlna applications I've tested were not successful.
MP4 works when it's not HD. So I have to transcode every time, creating two different files. I guess there's nothing I can do. I will send my friend one of my files and see if he can stream it to his tv over the wifi. If he can, then I really don't know I can't.
I will try Handbrake! mkv2vob is nice and free but it doesn't seem to do well when transcoding more than one video...

Thank you,
N.

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Read this link.
Jan 18, 2013 12:43AM PST
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Mmh
Jan 19, 2013 12:34AM PST

The server doesn't fail, the file just disappears. I don't know if that's failing.
Can I just ask you one thing: when you use Handbrake to convert an MKV file into a MP4, what is your Constant Quality?
I tried 1, checked the "larger size file" box, h264 for Otto e Mezzo (2 hours and 15 minutes) in 720p and the file weight 35gbs instead of 8 for the original file....

I've never used Handbrake before, I used to use Miro Video Converter but it won't include subtitles and half of my films are foreign so...
I'm trying QP 15 now but it looks like it's going to be pretty similar size wise....


Thank you!

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I can't answer that.
Jan 19, 2013 12:46AM PST

I use the defaults so I don't know.

-> Use a working title to get details from. I suggest MEDIA INFO if you don't have anything to inspect the encoding with.

As to titles that vanish, yup. That's proper and should be in the manual. Titles that it can't decode are not displayed. And that's not etched in stone. Titles it can't play may display.

Why this is, is a long story of how we got here in video encoding.
Bob