That's FORTY Rob, not 4000!
Where did you get this quote? Not from Rush, that's for sure. Because doubtful Rush would have misrepresented the facts like this. HE ENTERED A PLEA OF NOT GUILTY.
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District Attorney so that if I keep my nose clean for 18 months I get my record expunged. Bet you all wish you could get a deal like that. Even though I have pled guilty, I'm not guilty. Ignore those 4000 pills I was caught with."
Hypocrite and phony.
Rob
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scaled back in order to permit him to plead some peculiar form of Not Guilty that resulted in his having to be on probation for 18 months (sounds like guilty to me) and the number of pills he was found to have acquired illegally was 4000. There is evidence collected under a valid search warrant by the police in Florida that says it was 4000.
The facts are from the Abrams Report and every other real news report about the facts of the original indictment, and from the mouths of the two lawyers, one a Defense Attorney, one a former DA from Florida both of whom were astonished by the home town ruling that Limbaugh got. There are people serving 25 years for the same crime. I think its rankest hypocrisy, but I expect it from the Republican Conservatives.
Rob
A plea agreement involves pleading to a lesser charge. He did not.
Now the supposed number of pills is 4000? Where did you dig that lie up?
if Bill Clinton was being accused rather than your beloved Rush.
How about this Prosecutors accuse him of "doctor shopping," or illegally deceiving multiple doctors to receive overlapping prescriptions. They learned that he received about 2,000 painkillers, prescribed by four doctors in six months, at a pharmacy near his Palm Beach mansion.
Another interesting little tidbit Before his own problems became public, Limbaugh had decried drug use and abuse and mocked President Clinton for saying he had not inhaled when he tried marijuana. He often made the case that drug crimes deserve punishment.
"Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. ... And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up," Limbaugh said on his short-lived television show on Oct. 5, 1995.
And Limbaugh reported five years ago that he had lost most of his hearing because of an autoimmune inner-ear disease. He had surgery to have an electronic device placed in his skull to restore his hearing. But research shows that abusing opiate-based painkillers also can cause profound hearing loss.
Diana
... involving FORTY pills.
I sure as heck would call Rob's post a lie about anyone. He made up a quotation that doesn't even square with the facts of the case.
Rush is not beloved to me.
Prosecutors didn't make that accusation FORMALLY when it counted. They accused him of illegally obtaining forty stinkin pills. An accusation is NOT guilt.
You seem to have a problem with numbers. Rob claimed 4000, your "proof" involved 2000.
Hearing loss? He was suffering the loss before he took all those pain killers, so there is little to support the conjecture that it was pain killer related.
I've addressed the prior statements before. If you can't see the difference between how someone can get addicted to a substance prescribed to them for severe pain vs. recreational use, I can't help you.
Where is your proof about how long he's been hooked on these painkillers?
You haven't answered the one question I was most interested in. If this was Clinton, any accusation would be enough. If this is Limbaugh, no proof is good enough.
As to quantity, you're mixing apples and oranges. The accusation was he was found with 4000 pills and got 2000 pills over six months from four different doctors.
Diana
What's outrageous is that he was charged with only a single count, despite evidence of a continuing pattern of abuse over months. Meanwhile, this poor SOB is languishing in a Florida prison for 25 years for having too many prescription drugs in his possession because of his unrelenting chronic paid after an accident left him paralyzed (talk about adding insult to injury!) THAT discrepancy in treatment between the conservative "tough on crime" darling and the suffering lawyer is what's also outrageous!
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attempting to do God's work of throwing the conservatives in jail. You've got to have proof, and all that other pointless stuff.
performance today in announcing that he was Not Guilty (by reason of mental disease or defect?) of the charges he's reached a plea agreement on.
The DA was later seen leaving the building in the shape of a hoop with his head touching his heels he bent over backwards so far.
How nice it must be to live in Republicanland, never having to accept responsibility for the war, the deficit, the Hurricane, the incipient American Gulag, the Pill scandal, God the list is endless.
Rob
make up ridiculous charges" - Daily Democrat Mantra
What, you mean I just can't make up quotes and other facts? Wow, you and the NY Times really led me astray on that.
Every time he gets caught he denies he was quoting anybody, he was just putting words in their mouths for "satirical effect". Try researching the real story somewhere other than the National "Save Rush Limbaugh" Review.
My stuff came from my watching multiple news sources on the issue, and particularly from The Abrams Report on MSNBC, and the clip of Rush's broadcast either yesterday or today that was so self-serving and so full of lies and half truths that the camera only recorded every 4th frame. (Yes, I know it was an internet camera).
Rob
how is that NOT a bald-faced lie? Anything you say after that is comepletely invalid.
Say goodnight.
to try to prove a point. Own up to it and quit trying to excuse yourself.
As for my viewership of the "Save Limbaugh" show, well, that's non-existant. Actually, I dislike Rush, never much enjoyed listening to him and disagree with a lot of what he says.
My stuff did come from real sources such as CNN, FOX, my local networks, the AP (via my local newspaper), and the numerous sources cited in SE. The prosecution had little evidence on Rush, and chances are that if it had gone to trial, Rush probably would have gotten away without any repercussions.
Unless he was being sarcastic. So you're the person watching MSNBC these days.
overlapping prescriptions from multiple doctors for the same complaint, or the sheer volume of pills involved. Its all about poor little Rushie, hounded by the press because of his celebrity and his political beliefs. He's not Thomas Paine, and the government that's pursuing him is the Florida Department of Justice. Like I said at the beginning, I'd like him to suffer the penalty he'd urge on anyone else found guilty of that crime, incarceration for an extended period. As I understand it there's already somebody down there serving 25 years for the same sort of thing. 25 years for Rushie would suit me fine.
Rob
(Abrams Report?) with a Florida Defence Attorney and a former Prosecutor, and their conclusion was that it was one of the most egregious cases of bending over backwards for the accused they'd ever seen. Additionally they talked about the way that the case was expedited when Limbaugh finally turned himself in along with his lawyer, his lawyer accompanied him through every step of the process, and he was in and out in under 45 minutes. Again, the talking heads were astonished by that level of favoritism.
He is pleading guilty to possession of 40 pills, even though he was in possession of 4000 pills of controlled drugs, or else it was provable that he had obtained 4000 pills, I'm not entirely sure which. The agreement as I said is that if he keeps his nose clean for 18 months he gets his record expunged. According to his characterization this means he is Not Guilty on all charges. Talk about Rush in Limbaugh land. Even the White Queen could only believe 6 impossible things before breakfast (look up the reference).
There's nothing quite like Equality before the Law in America, politics, money, and celebrity have no influence at all.
And I'd be willing to say that anyone who supports the pill popping blow-hard, is guilty of hypocrisy too. If he were a Democrat, particularly a prominent Democratic spokesman, you'd all be screaming for execution, or incarceration for life, and that this behavior is typical of Democrats everywhere. I don't think Limbaugh's drug habit is typical of Republicans everywhere, but I do think that this manipulation of the Justice system is typical of how some Republicans try to avoid responsibility for their own actions.
Rob
Rob