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Refurbished on Dell.com, good or bad idea?

Aug 8, 2005 4:57AM PDT

I found a refurbished dell dimension 9100 w/ everything I want and quite a bit more for quite a bit less than the non-refurbished one I was building on their site. Is buying one of their refurbs a terrible idea? Anyone else purchased a manufacturer refurb? Thanks!

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Refurb Dell 2400...and ZERO Problems
Aug 12, 2005 3:53AM PDT

I bought mine last November when my ancient Gateway was about to die. Cost $400 incl. shipping and free 90-day warranty. I wanted a larger memory and was willing to settle for a smaller hd -- they had so many to choose from that I found what I wanted within minutes. Three days later I was up and running...and I'm on it up to 10 hours a day. Note: make sure your choice includes a monitor if you need one -- I didn't.

I will happily take this path again.

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Buying Dell Referb
Aug 12, 2005 3:45AM PDT

Buying a refurbised Dell does not mean you are always buying a used or defective computer. I have been dealing with Dell for years and very familiar with how their internal process work. Sometimes a large corporation or a individual may purchase a Dell unit or have a bulk order placed and then decide hey I do not like the way I configured this or cancelled their order before delivery or in the corporation sense ordered 500 and they really only need 400 units. Well since this unit is either custom built for someone or left over from a big order Dell cannot sell these unit as new. The other benefit of buying the refeb unit is that they sometimes have the same or a better warranty that what you would configure for a higher price. I can say I have purchased both refurb and new units from many manufacturers and the rule of thumb I always go buy if it has the same or better warranty go for it. If it only offers you 30 to 90 days then buy new or buy an extended warranty through the manufacturer. Never buy from a third party source always buy direct from DELL, Epson, IBM etc....Not Tiger Direct or some reseller off of Ebay. I hope that helps.

Tom

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Refurbished Dell
Aug 12, 2005 5:34AM PDT

I have bought Dell products for the last 15 years and have always bought a refurbished machine.

They usually carry the same warranty as new and when I have needed service, the service was always excellent.

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Refurbished HP
Aug 12, 2005 8:25AM PDT

I bought a refurbished HP media center pc (m495c) about 9 months ago from eCost for $849. I saved quite a bit of money. It had a 90 day warantee from HP. When I first turned it on, it would only beep sadly and not boot at all. After some telephone time with HP, and some testing I had to do (take out and replace the memory and video card) it was due to a bad memory stick. I don't think they ever tested my pc before shipping it to me. I had to return the pc to HP by UPS pickup and was without it for about 2 weeks. Since then, I have had no problems with the unit. It works fine and I can watch sports on a tv window when I am surfing, etc.

So, the warantee was very useful and it was from HP even though I bought it from eCost.

From what I'm reading here, it looks like Dell would be a better way to go for you.

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HP notebook from eCost
Aug 12, 2005 11:39AM PDT

I too have had a lousy experience with an HP refurb. I bought a 17WXGA for my wife for Xmas. I have had to make at least 3 service calls, sent it back for repair twice now, and I stil am having problems with it.
I'm going to call HP customer service (I too purxchased an extended warranty) and vent my frustrations on them.
It's my feeling that HP should make good on the laptop. I have never had any problems with HP products before this. One of the biggest problems is that their tech support is obviously outsourced, and it's difficult to communicate with the heavy-accented agents that answer the call. And while I specifically sais that the wireless adapter seems to be problematic, they returned the unit after replacing the hard drive (which means that all of my wife's unsaved data is gone) and never even tested the wireless adapter. Now, in trying to connect it to our home WiFi network, it no longer sees the link.
I don't like pointing fingers, but it seems to be more fallout from the Carly Fiorina years.

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Refurbished HP
Aug 13, 2005 5:41AM PDT

I bought a $900 HP pavillion for $650 refurbished about 4 years ago. It was never anything but headaches. Tech support stripped down everything possible in the software amd it still had frequent hangups. I spent hours with them on the pnone. It was Win98 but its problems with hangups were far greater than others. I finally got tired of getting her going again and got her a Dell for $399 18 months ago and it has been wonderful.

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Better than new.
Aug 12, 2005 8:43AM PDT

My last two computers and two others I purchased for my kids have all been refurbed from the manufacturer. I have no experience with Dell, these are all Gateway models, but each has never had a problem. My take is that they are better than new. Each was probably tested and poured over by a technician to fix a standard problem. Chances are many are just overstocks or cancelled orderes anyway. Save some money!!

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Sony VIAO 3yrs and no trouble!
Aug 12, 2005 10:29AM PDT

I've had a Sony VIAO referb for 2-3 years without a problem. Also have had refurb HP 19" monitor 5 yrs no problems.

Both bought via web (UBid). Saved a bunch of money & happy with what I got, but recommend you be sure of source (ie: vendors site or other trustworthy site), check price (ie: is it really a deal), be sure of what is/is not included in deal (ie: operating system, cords/cables/mouse).

Be very careful of 'Shipping & Handling' costs too ... can be as much/more than the product from some auction sites/auctioneers.

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My Refurbished Gateway...
Aug 12, 2005 10:31AM PDT

Is just perfect for me and was so much cheaper. I have had nothing but praise for it and have had it for about 7 months. It was cheaper than I could buy the components and software and build one this good. I recommend refurbishedespecially Gateways.
Keith Hinkle

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Not Such a Great Idea
Aug 13, 2005 1:05AM PDT

I purchased a refurbished hp pavilion computer. There ws a guarantee that came with my purchase. After I hooked everything up and was ready to start using my computer, I couldn't.

It seems that the sound the computer was searching as a "dial tone" was a screeching, horrible sound that was so horrible that I had to tell the computer technician to turn it off immediately.

After "fighting" with them for about 6 weeks, I started bothering UBid daily for help. Finally, a top manager happened to see my mail on a thick file folder. He called me and said they would be shipping a box for the computer and would pay for the shipping fee, as well as a no-charge repair bill. (Considering the fact that it never worked, I pretty much dared them to say it wasn't covered. Since then, I've had a few problems, but have found hp to be concerned about keeping its customers happy. Would I buy another one? I don't think so. The stress of constantly pushing for assistance just isn't worth it for me. I'd try a new computer (probably with some problems) over a re-furbished one any day.

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REfurbished.........good.............!
Aug 13, 2005 9:34AM PDT

I purchased a refurbished Sony Vaio...from UBID. The only problem that I had was the hard drive crashed after 3 years. Anybody's hard drive can crash after three years! I have a friend that bought a new Hewlett Packard and the drive crashed inside 12 months and guess what he didn't get the extended warranty. This computer may have had the hard drive replaced but it is 5 years old and running great! Just make sure that you purchase an extended warranty. Generally, the warranty's only are for about three months.
Good Luck!

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Refurbished computers market.
Sep 17, 2005 2:14PM PDT

It's also important that their after sale support service should good as it increase their substantial number of repeat business and referral customers.You should be covered by a warranty and the company you're buying from has good support/customer service.


www.computersshopper.com

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Pretty good deal IF YOU'RE CAREFUL
Aug 13, 2005 11:03AM PDT

I am the Manager of the Computer Service Dept of a large national chain, therefore I am pretty familiar with refurbs. Basically, the refurbs are the units which were returned to the factory after the customer received an exchange.
The good news on these refurbs is that since the Manufacturer is reselling them under his banner, in theory, they are examined from A to Z. You do get fantastic deals on not-too-recent models. Any defective part is replaced in order to make the unit operable.
The bad news is that technicians are humans and, as such, sometimes a problem will only show up once the PC is used extensively.
My recommendation? If you are on a limited budget, buy the refurb and try it out for 3 to 4 days. I mean install every program you think you will be using. Restart the PC many times, leave it running overnite, run different diagnostic software to really dig up any thing negative. If nothing bad appears, protect your purchase with an extended warranty which many stores will allow you to add within a few days of your purchase, and enjoy.

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Why not
Aug 14, 2005 12:03AM PDT

Everyone is trying to save money these days. So
knowing Dell's reputation, go for it. My friend is
going to buy one. The trick is finding one that suits
your parameters. I have a Dell and am quite satisfied
with it.

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Refurbs-some good some bad
Aug 14, 2005 9:19AM PDT

I have bought two laptops as refurbs-an Omni notebook and an eMachine. The Omni performed flawlessly for years. The eMachine I got recently (Jan 2005) from Tigerdirect. It's hard drive failed within the 90 day warranty, and it's CDRW has never worked right. I don't care about the CD RW so much, but the hard drive was a pain. My advice: if you get a refurb, make sure you use everything more than once to make sure it works before the warranty is up.

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I've bought refubished Dell, Sony, and HP PCs...
Aug 14, 2005 11:58PM PDT

...and they have been at least as reliable as any others I've bought.

The biggest issue is that the warranty is potentially too short (usually 90 days), and (at Dell) the moneyback guarantee period is a lot shorter (10 days) than with a new PC.

But if you know that you want the model you're getting, as opposed to thinking that it seems to be what you want, the moneyback guarantee is probably not an issue.

Good luck.

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Multiple Dells - happy buyer
Aug 15, 2005 4:42AM PDT

I've purchased several workstations and peripherals over the years through Dell Factory Outlet, and have always been a satisfied customer. In fact, I've been checking the inventory on laptops over the past few days, looking for the features I want at a price that can't be beat. I've recommended Dell Factory Outlet to a number of friends and family, and they have been as happy as I have!

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Refurbished Dell, good or bad idea?
Aug 16, 2005 12:57AM PDT

My husband and I have both had refurbished Dells for several years. We got a very good price, the features we wanted, and have had absolutely no problems with the computers. My daugher used to work on a computer help desk for a state agency, and told me they had less trouble with the Dells than any other brand, and they were the easist to update. Both of our daughters also have refurbished Dells. Before the Dell I bought a brand new computer with what I thought was a very reputable brand, and the hard drive crashed in less than a year. I had constant trouble with that computer.

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Toshiba Tecra Refurbished
Aug 16, 2005 9:47PM PDT

I bought a refurbished Tecra laptop from e-bay.
It works, but the battery was dead from the first day.
the onboard windows (it included windows 98 SE) didn't accept the licence that was on the computer (it broke down eventually as windows always do, and when I wanted to re-install it, it didn't accept the cd-key that is glewed on the back of the computer)!!
as an overall, I would do it again and buy refurbished gagdets.

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refurbs are just as good. Just get them at a cheaper price
Aug 17, 2005 2:15AM PDT

Make sure refurbs are a better value than new PCs of similar specs, else you'll be missing the point of getting refurbs in the first place.

As far as Dell refurbs vs new PCs, both are OK since the former's warranty will usually be on par with the latter's warranty. Any problems, and they're obligated to take care of it. Make sure other warranty is included if you want it. Stuff like on-site service is included with new units for only a year, but they may not include that with refurbs.

Another note: If u read the sales contract for new PCs, much of it may end up being refurbed parts, as it states "if Dell can't find new parts, we can use 'like-new' parts instead". E.g. they can't find a 300GB SATA hd for your brand new PC..... someone else returned their entire PC order after 2 weeks of use. Then they would swap out the SATA hd from the returned unit and put it in what would be your "brand new" machine. Everything would be brand new except the 2 week old (or in other cases even older) hd. Some parts may have been sitting around or been used in customers' PCs for many months by then

I bought a new PC..... Dimension 8300 from Dell. First one, all USB ports didn't work. Tech came in and replaced the motherboard. Now the ethernet/internet wasn't available. 3rd time, they replaced the whole system. I was told it would be a refurb. I didn't mind despite paying for a new PC since there's a good chance this time, everything would be right. I was right. 3rd time, the refurbed worked nicely. They tell u new PCs are "rigorously quality tested" for hardware and software problems, but the new PC and replacement mobo were problematic. IMO, It wasn't unreasonable to think that if a new PC had problems, a refurb would work fine.

Conclusion, go for the refurb, esp. if u can get a good deal. Make sure any specific warranties u want (besides the standard limited like on-site, or spyware removal help) is included

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Have two refurbished HP's
Aug 17, 2005 9:06PM PDT

I have purchased 2 refurbished machines from HP and added the extended warranties. The machines have worked flawlessly, the only problems I've encountered have been with the Windows operating system. What I like about them is that they even have "LIVE" online tech support chat where you talk to a live technician. On several ocassions they have called me back to make sure the machine is operating properly. I would not hesitate to buy another machine from HP, especially with the saving you get on their refurbished models.

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refrurbs are good if you buy from reliable company.
Sep 17, 2005 2:44PM PDT

I think the refurbs are just good as it pass through from rigorously quality test, you could get them at cheaper price if you go on for bargaining at a comfort zone.

Many companies are offering deal and good bargaining. The important thing is that you must get best after sales service and support. if you've purchased from a reliable and reputed one I think that you can get good customer care service.

www.computersshopper.com

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Refurbished on Dell - great idea
Nov 9, 2005 2:25AM PST

We always buy Dell refurbished. A lot of the times the computers are brand new and have been returned because customers wanted to upgrade, open boxes, etc. If they did have any problems they go through extensive testing to make sure they are right. We have a Dell dimension 8200, 2 Dell Inspiron Laptops, Dell printer/scanner/fax, Dell 1702 17'' Flat Screen Monitor, Axim PDA, Dell DJ - all refurbished. We've only had 1 problem. When we purchased our sons laptop we also purchased an extra warranty plan and glad we did. He had trouble with his laptop and Dell came to him while he was in class and fixed his computer right then and there. If it is a new computer you are buying it is a good idea to get an extended warranty with it. Just think about it, if you buy a new computer and have trouble you have to get it fixed, these have already had the bugs taken out of them. Yes, we did have that 1 incident, but out of all the products we brought through Dell Refurb. I think their track record speaks for itself.