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recycling patriotism?

by WOODS-HICK / September 6, 2008 3:32 AM PDT
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I'm thinking the Dems would have taken the flags home if...
by James Denison / September 6, 2008 4:09 AM PDT
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I wonder why Mr. Obama didn't find a better use for the
by Kiddpeat / September 6, 2008 5:15 AM PDT
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American flags? It seems odd to trash them this way. I guess that is a lack of experience.

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I can see him now
by JP Bill / September 6, 2008 5:19 AM PDT

Personally taking each flag saluting and placing it in the garbage bag, and carrying the bags to the curb.

Talk about running your own campaign.

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Donation
by James Denison / September 6, 2008 5:23 AM PDT
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He could have donated them to the local VFW or other organization and they'd probably come by, picked them all up, stored them for July 4th events.

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I know it seems natural to you to trash the American flag,
by Kiddpeat / September 6, 2008 5:25 AM PDT
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but that's not how it's done. American flags are never supposed to be thrown in the trash. If they are being disposed of, they should be burned in a respectful manner. I guess the Canadian flag is simply dumped in the garbage?

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In you first post
by JP Bill / September 6, 2008 5:29 AM PDT

it was about Obama disposing of the flags.

Did you really think Obama (personally) had ANYTHING to do with what happened to the flags?

Micro manage?

McCain Greenscreen? You think he arranged that?

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So, the buck doesn't stop with Obama?
by Kiddpeat / September 6, 2008 5:31 AM PDT
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I wonder if there are more things that above his pay grade?

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So, the buck doesn't stop with McCain?
by JP Bill / September 6, 2008 5:50 AM PDT
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did you see stewart's 'lion king' satire'
by WOODS-HICK / September 7, 2008 1:36 AM PDT

about Obama? that was well done.

I believe stewart should refrain from his jokes of McCain's POW years. that will always be tasteless.

the green screen issue, if you haven't heard the explanation, I will post at your request

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They are claiming now...
by EdHannigan / September 6, 2008 5:22 AM PDT

that Republicans STOLE the flags!


HAHAHAHAHA!!!

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If I was him...
by James Denison / September 6, 2008 5:25 AM PDT

...I'd smile and say, "Well, it seems the Republicans do accept welfare from Democrats".

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If he was that clever....
by EdHannigan / September 6, 2008 5:45 AM PDT
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he might not be who he is.

This is kind of silly. But funny. Was that the "green" way of disposing of them? No CO2?

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(NT) another revered example of crossing of party lines?
by WOODS-HICK / September 6, 2008 5:47 AM PDT
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Once they are in the dumpster, anyone can take them.
by Kiddpeat / September 6, 2008 5:28 AM PDT

Don't these folks know that? Even the police can pick through your trash.

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BUT !!
by critic411 / September 6, 2008 5:31 AM PDT

Let's overlook the fact that they just threw them away to begin with !!!!

Would have been much too hard to find some Veterans graves to put them on !!

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Surely we can understand that Mr. Obama
by Kiddpeat / September 6, 2008 5:34 AM PDT
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doesn't have time for some of these Veterans things.

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(NT) You mean like that Germany snub thingy?
by critic411 / September 6, 2008 5:36 AM PDT
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which is why I do not believe they should be used as props
by WOODS-HICK / September 6, 2008 6:05 AM PDT

they become part of the stagecraft and are valued as such. they take on the mantle of confetti; not needed until the presumed acceptance-extravaganza.

I do not place any direct blame on the candidate. the fault belongs to his staff.

a professional prop-person(union*) would have made sure the flags were handled with the proper respect.


* had to toss that in as there are union members on the other ticket.

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So you think Mr. Obama left a critical decision, one that
by Kiddpeat / September 6, 2008 6:20 AM PDT

would be seen by the nation and define his candidacy, in the hands of an underling? The use of a mass of American flags to help set the stage for his most important speech was not reviewed and approved by Mr. Obama?

I can see it now! US invades Russia as President Obama blames an underling for the decision to invade.

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isn't it only one of his critical decisions
by WOODS-HICK / September 6, 2008 6:34 AM PDT

the others escape my memory at the moment.

and in response to your second point: that's why he chose JB as his VP.
blame is not allowed or accepted in the world of the chosen

so I give him a pass for: not turning off the lights and closing the windows

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I'd like to talk about- and God help us!
by Angeline Booher / September 6, 2008 6:48 AM PDT
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...... issues that I consider important! If we are going to spend the next several weeks focusing on silly stuff like this, then God help us!!!

If we can't point out where this candidate or this candidate has changed their minds over the last six months or two years, then God help us!

If we can't be critical of Governor Palin without being accused of attacking her, then God help us!

If we can't be critical of Obama without being accused of being racist, then God help us!

I'd like to talk about this country being in crisis over several issues -
health care, our over-stretched military, a serious look at energy alternatives, a serious look at agriculture for the future , on and on. Somehow any attempts to do so end up with the same attacks on the same messengers by the same people with the same words.

There are so many important things to discuss other than the silly ones that take up space here.

Angeline
Speakeasy Moderator

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if you feel
by oldie and goody / September 6, 2008 6:54 AM PDT

this is a silly thing, then God help us all. The Flag,IMO, is not a silly issue. Also why not just implement the ban on politics? That should solve all the issues with silly people and silly agendas.

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i don't think that criticizing a candidate is out of bounds
by Kiddpeat / September 6, 2008 7:09 AM PDT

as long as the criticism is true and relevant. The problem is that a lot of "criticisms" have been little more than wild rumors that even the Obama campaign has said are off limits. Others are simply taking things wildly out of context. If you say something that isn't true or isn't relevant, that's probably going to be pointed out.

On the other hand, do you expect to level criticism without being able to defend that criticism? If so, I think your expectations are unrealistic. Of course criticisms will be challenged! That's the nature of debate.

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So, bring up issues that you think are important.
by EdHannigan / September 6, 2008 7:18 AM PDT

Nothing stopping you.

This is all SOP for political campaigns. And if anyone does not know by now what the two candidates stances are...well...

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HA HA !!
by critic411 / September 6, 2008 10:18 AM PDT

If a topic isn't important to YOU, It shouldn't of concern to anybody else !!!

That's great !!

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(NT) God?
by C1ay / September 6, 2008 1:55 PM PDT
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and your proof is in the pudding
by WOODS-HICK / September 7, 2008 1:28 AM PDT
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Those links are indeed very helpful and
by Angeline Booher / September 7, 2008 1:45 AM PDT

.... I have saved them.

From what I can tell, they are as unbiased as any such reports can be.

A lot more informative than just sound bites, and good references for an unreliable memory.

Thanks for understanding what I was talking about!

Angeline
Speakeasy Moderator

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(NT) good!! tomorrow I'll bring you an apple :-)
by WOODS-HICK / September 7, 2008 1:51 AM PDT
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Helpful ??
by critic411 / September 7, 2008 1:52 AM PDT

You mean you are still actually considering voting for McCain ????

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